Did I make a mistake?
06-19-2014, 04:27 PM
#21
Y
That trailer is to big for your truck and you'll be overloaded. My trailer is just a tad heavier and I only have about 100 lbs left before reaching my GVWR. My payload is 1582 lbs next to your low 1310 lbs. I have 272 lbs more payload and I'm only 100 lbs away from my GVWR with family and light trailer gear loaded in bed. Tow rating means nothing as you'll exceed your GVWR before you even get close to your tow rating.
Hey everyone, I just bought a new 2014 f-150 fx4 and am wondering if I made a mistake in the choice i made. I bought the fx4 Supercrew version with the 3.55 gears fully loaded with the appearance package. I originally wanted the one with 3.73 gearing cause it had a higher tow rating (9500 vs 7700) but due to a mistake on my part( caught up in the purchase and forgot to ask about the gearing) got one with the 3.55 gears. I was kind of upset that you could not get max tow in the 5.0l(did not want the ecoboost) and think its ridiculous that ford made that decision(most likely to help sell the ecoboost). The truck does have a built in brake controller, select shift transmission and trailer tow package.
Anyways, Just wondering if this truck is going to severely limit the size of trailer i can buy in the future. We do not camp a extreme amount( maybe 3 times a summer) and do not travel far away( 300km at most). Terrain is pretty flat.
The truck has a GVWR of 7350 and a payload of 1310. I only added a tonneau cover as after market so i have a payload of 1200lbs? We are a family of four. Two kids and a big dog.
So what am I safe to look at for a trailer? I know that's a loaded question but id like to get some opinions on it if I can. Am I limited to under 5000# or can I go 6000#. We would like a trailer with double bunks and a queen up front and something no bigger than 26 feet.
For example we were looking at this trailer last year. Due to the fact that we bought this truck instead we will be looking for something used and probably older which means it will most likely weigh more.
http://www.primetimerv.com/default.a...326&series=AIR
Also if anybody has the same truck or something similar can you post what trailer you pull?
I really and I mean really love my new truck and I don't want to regret my purchase so help ease my worries lol
Thanks for reading
Anyways, Just wondering if this truck is going to severely limit the size of trailer i can buy in the future. We do not camp a extreme amount( maybe 3 times a summer) and do not travel far away( 300km at most). Terrain is pretty flat.
The truck has a GVWR of 7350 and a payload of 1310. I only added a tonneau cover as after market so i have a payload of 1200lbs? We are a family of four. Two kids and a big dog.
So what am I safe to look at for a trailer? I know that's a loaded question but id like to get some opinions on it if I can. Am I limited to under 5000# or can I go 6000#. We would like a trailer with double bunks and a queen up front and something no bigger than 26 feet.
For example we were looking at this trailer last year. Due to the fact that we bought this truck instead we will be looking for something used and probably older which means it will most likely weigh more.
http://www.primetimerv.com/default.a...326&series=AIR
Also if anybody has the same truck or something similar can you post what trailer you pull?
I really and I mean really love my new truck and I don't want to regret my purchase so help ease my worries lol
Thanks for reading
Last edited by Mike Up; 06-19-2014 at 04:39 PM.
06-19-2014, 07:10 PM
#22
Thanks for all the replies everyone! Looks like pretty much what I expected when I made the thread. Half saying im fine and other half saying im overloaded. lol
Im going to take smokeywrens advice and go to the scales one day to figure out my max trailer weight.
Does it make a difference if you store more stuff in the trailer than in your truck? Most if not all of my camping items would be stored in the trailer along with food and clothes. I never travel with full tanks other than propane. the only thing I could see putting in my bed is bikes and maybe a few odds and ends.
Im going to take smokeywrens advice and go to the scales one day to figure out my max trailer weight.
Does it make a difference if you store more stuff in the trailer than in your truck? Most if not all of my camping items would be stored in the trailer along with food and clothes. I never travel with full tanks other than propane. the only thing I could see putting in my bed is bikes and maybe a few odds and ends.
06-19-2014, 07:34 PM
#23
Thanks for all the replies everyone! Looks like pretty much what I expected when I made the thread. Half saying im fine and other half saying im overloaded. lol
Im going to take smokeywrens advice and go to the scales one day to figure out my max trailer weight.
Does it make a difference if you store more stuff in the trailer than in your truck? Most if not all of my camping items would be stored in the trailer along with food and clothes. I never travel with full tanks other than propane. the only thing I could see putting in my bed is bikes and maybe a few odds and ends.
Im going to take smokeywrens advice and go to the scales one day to figure out my max trailer weight.
Does it make a difference if you store more stuff in the trailer than in your truck? Most if not all of my camping items would be stored in the trailer along with food and clothes. I never travel with full tanks other than propane. the only thing I could see putting in my bed is bikes and maybe a few odds and ends.
If it's just you and your wife, and really no additional gear, firewood or anything, then it may work out with only 1200 lbs of true payload (after truck accessories).
If you can tell us what you will put into the truck weight wise as far as you, family, and any additional weight that the truck didn't come from the factory with, that will really help.
With my 800 lbs family and gear(including truck accessories at 15# soft tonneau cover and 20# bedrug), and your trucks 6040 lbs weight, your 13,500 lbs CGVW, would give you a tow rating of at 6050 lbs.
No matter what you do, you're going to be over weight or at least exceed the CGWR (your true tow rating). My travel trailer loaded is about 6500 lbs.
I would definitely buy a much lighter camper or buy another truck, perhaps a 3/4 ton if you plan to load it out like a Lincoln/Cadillac. Once you buy the camper, it's to late when you take it to the scales and find you have exceeded all ratings.
I would look at "NONE" slide Hybrid (tent bunk ends with hardwalls) campers if you need all the sleeping a bunkhouse offers but with the light weight a 1/2 truck can tow safely. Even Hybrid campers with slides can be to much weight for your little payload and lower CGWR. I would try to stick to campers around 4500 lbs wet/loaded with your truck capacities. This Jayco Hybrid camper may work if you load it light and if your gear/family weight is lighter than my 800 lbs. It has large beds, a separate sofa bench (attached to dinette) and good size fresh water and waste water tanks. It's really hard to get below 1200 lbs and have enough bunks for a larger family.
Last edited by Mike Up; 06-19-2014 at 07:50 PM.
06-19-2014, 07:39 PM
#24
Junior Member
I have pretty much have the exact specs as you except in XTR and I added firestone ride rite air bags. Family of four plus 100 pound dog in the cab. I tow a 30 tt tounge to bumper weighing 7700 lbs loaded. Ford says 7500 max.(again I call BS). Pulls great, comfortable tow, no problems, tranny temp doesn't move. I usually lock out 6th and hammer down. Hope this helps.
Last edited by ccoles; 06-19-2014 at 07:42 PM.
06-19-2014, 07:42 PM
#25
Yes, it will help if you can take some of the gear in your truck bed and put it into the camper. Once in the camper, it'll not make much difference compared to having it go directly against your truck payload.
If it's just you and your wife, and really no additional gear, firewood or anything, then it may work out with only 1200 lbs of true payload (after truck accessories).
If you can tell us what you will put into the truck weight wise as far as you, family, and any additional weight that the truck didn't come from the factory with, that will really help.
With my 800 lbs family and gear(including truck accessories at 15# soft tonneau cover and 20# bedrug), and your trucks 6040 lbs weight, your 13,500 lbs CGVW, would give you a tow rating of at 6050 lbs.
No matter what you do, you're going to be over weight or at least exceed the CGWR (your true tow rating). My travel trailer loaded is about 6500 lbs.
I would definitely buy a much lighter camper or buy another truck, perhaps a 3/4 ton if you plan to load it out like a Lincoln/Cadillac. Once you buy the camper, it's to late when you take it to the scales and find you have exceeded all ratings.
I would look at "NONE" slide Hybrid campers if you need all the sleeping a bunkhouse offers but with the light weight a 1/2 truck can tow safely. Even Hybrid campers with slides can be to much weight for your little payload and lower CGWR. I would try to stick to campers around 4000 lbs dry from the factory (not brochure weights which tend to be 200 - 300 lbs less) with your truck capacities.
If it's just you and your wife, and really no additional gear, firewood or anything, then it may work out with only 1200 lbs of true payload (after truck accessories).
If you can tell us what you will put into the truck weight wise as far as you, family, and any additional weight that the truck didn't come from the factory with, that will really help.
With my 800 lbs family and gear(including truck accessories at 15# soft tonneau cover and 20# bedrug), and your trucks 6040 lbs weight, your 13,500 lbs CGVW, would give you a tow rating of at 6050 lbs.
No matter what you do, you're going to be over weight or at least exceed the CGWR (your true tow rating). My travel trailer loaded is about 6500 lbs.
I would definitely buy a much lighter camper or buy another truck, perhaps a 3/4 ton if you plan to load it out like a Lincoln/Cadillac. Once you buy the camper, it's to late when you take it to the scales and find you have exceeded all ratings.
I would look at "NONE" slide Hybrid campers if you need all the sleeping a bunkhouse offers but with the light weight a 1/2 truck can tow safely. Even Hybrid campers with slides can be to much weight for your little payload and lower CGWR. I would try to stick to campers around 4000 lbs dry from the factory (not brochure weights which tend to be 200 - 300 lbs less) with your truck capacities.
06-19-2014, 07:56 PM
#26
Well as far as weight of family and additional stuff, the only addition i added to the truck aftermarket was a tonnue cover. I took the 1310 payload and deducted about 110 for cover so that leaves me with roughly 1200lbs. Weight of my family would be about 570lbs( 2 adults 2 kids and a big dog) then I would guess a couple hundred more for gear if I could not put it in trailer. Does that help?
Here's how I came to my conclusion. Most tongue weights on a dual axle camper avearge around 13% of the total loaded trailer weight based from finding on rv.net. Most weight distribution hitches when correctly adjusted transfer 80% to the truck axles and 20% to the trailer axles. These percentages include the weight of the hitch already. Found these averages as well at rv.net
Now these are averages so it could be better or worst, but you need a starting point to know what to buy. You then can go to the scales and get weighed to find out exactly and change loading or hitch adjustment accordingly.
Here's what I said when I edited the previous post: " I would try to stick to campers around 4500 lbs wet/loaded with your truck capacities. This Jayco Hybrid camper may work if you load it light and if your gear/family weight is lighter than my 800 lbs. It has large beds, a separate sofa bench (attached to dinette) and good size fresh water and waste water tanks. It's really hard to get below 1200 lbs and have enough bunks for a larger family."
So if that camper loaded is 4500 lbs. It's tongue weight would be 585 lbs based on an avearge 13% of total trailer weight. Now based on an average of 80%, 468 lbs of the hitch weight would be transfered to the truck axles. Your 468 lbs from the trailers tongue weight and 800 lbs of family and gear would be a total of 1268 lbs. So your still 68 lbs over. You'd have to load the trailer only to 3850 lbs. I don't know if that's even possible. You may have to go with a camper with only 2 beds and sleep on the dinette/sofa as well. Truthfully, with your low payload and heavy tonneau cover, you might only be able to pull a pop up camper without going over your payload. Just for reference, my wifes 2012 Escape's payload is just under 1100 lbs so you're not going to be able to pull much more than some subcompact vehicles without going over GVWR. Truck can pull it but you'll be overloaded. GVWRs are established from handling, stopping, and capacity.
Good luck in what you find.
Last edited by Mike Up; 06-19-2014 at 09:17 PM.
06-19-2014, 08:05 PM
#27
Senior Member
Thanks for all the replies everyone! Looks like pretty much what I expected when I made the thread. Half saying im fine and other half saying im overloaded. lol
Im going to take smokeywrens advice and go to the scales one day to figure out my max trailer weight.
Does it make a difference if you store more stuff in the trailer than in your truck? Most if not all of my camping items would be stored in the trailer along with food and clothes. I never travel with full tanks other than propane. the only thing I could see putting in my bed is bikes and maybe a few odds and ends.
Im going to take smokeywrens advice and go to the scales one day to figure out my max trailer weight.
Does it make a difference if you store more stuff in the trailer than in your truck? Most if not all of my camping items would be stored in the trailer along with food and clothes. I never travel with full tanks other than propane. the only thing I could see putting in my bed is bikes and maybe a few odds and ends.
I am a previous sask boy myself. Lol
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06-19-2014, 08:21 PM
#28
Lol true but since the boom it is getting a lot more dangerous on those flat straight highways. A lot of bad drivers are moving here
06-19-2014, 08:22 PM
#29
There are always the scoffers ready to flaunt reasonable limits, endanger their families as well as the safety of others. Use your own common sense.
06-19-2014, 08:57 PM
#30
Oh ya i completely understand, It not like im going to be trying to pull a 10,000 lb fifth wheel. lol IMO pulling a 26ft ultra light or light trailer no more than 5 to 6000lbs wet should not be a problem, but I'm no expert so that why I started thread lol
