Descent on steep grades
#1
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Descent on steep grades
Well, I searched first and didn't find much, so starting this thread to ask how y'all are doing at towing downhill. I'm coming from a 7.3 PS F250 that had plenty of engine braking. Going to a '16 Screw/157WB/3.5/3.55/Max tow, and towing around 7000# of trailer. I'd like to hear of your experiences towing downhill. If you can recall an experience that you felt started pushing the limits, please post here.
Give a brief description of your rig, mainly WB, tow pkg, engine, and approx. load. Trailer length and weight, GRADE, length of grade, and curves.
How did the sway control work? What kind of hitch? Did you boost the trailer braking? Etc.
Give a brief description of your rig, mainly WB, tow pkg, engine, and approx. load. Trailer length and weight, GRADE, length of grade, and curves.
How did the sway control work? What kind of hitch? Did you boost the trailer braking? Etc.
#2
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2.7 4x4 screw 3.73
towing 7000# 28' travel trailer and traveling all over oregon and 2 trips down to northern California it has performed fine for me downhill.Truck will down shift down to second to control speed. minimal brakes usage on the roads I've traveled. I have cheep WDH with no sway control and never had the truck sway control activate.
I feel the transmission is very intelligent and shifts at all the right times. I set the cruise control and only use the brakes when needed.
towing 7000# 28' travel trailer and traveling all over oregon and 2 trips down to northern California it has performed fine for me downhill.Truck will down shift down to second to control speed. minimal brakes usage on the roads I've traveled. I have cheep WDH with no sway control and never had the truck sway control activate.
I feel the transmission is very intelligent and shifts at all the right times. I set the cruise control and only use the brakes when needed.
#3
The 3.5EB is a little short on compression braking due to its small displacement. The thing to do is start slow at the top of a hill and gear it down. 2nd is frequently needed and sometimes 1st if it is real steep. I apply the brakes intermittently to keep them from getting too hot. This has all worked fine for me so far. Others have reported some issues with brakes getting too hot. Hard to say how much is the machine and how much is the driver. (Not flaming anyone here.)
You will have significantly less compression braking than you have had.
You will have significantly less compression braking than you have had.
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130428 (02-17-2016)
#4
True North Strong & Free
Ive had our TT loaded at ~6200# coming through Ridway CO to Durango CO. The engine braking is most certainly the weakest link in its ability for towing. I used up a lot of brake that day, this is me coming from a D-max and former 5.4.....
#6
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2.7 4x4 screw 3.73
towing 7000# 28' travel trailer and traveling all over oregon and 2 trips down to northern California it has performed fine for me downhill.Truck will down shift down to second to control speed. minimal brakes usage on the roads I've traveled. I have cheep WDH with no sway control and never had the truck sway control activate.
I feel the transmission is very intelligent and shifts at all the right times. I set the cruise control and only use the brakes when needed.
towing 7000# 28' travel trailer and traveling all over oregon and 2 trips down to northern California it has performed fine for me downhill.Truck will down shift down to second to control speed. minimal brakes usage on the roads I've traveled. I have cheep WDH with no sway control and never had the truck sway control activate.
I feel the transmission is very intelligent and shifts at all the right times. I set the cruise control and only use the brakes when needed.
#7
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The 3.5EB is a little short on compression braking due to its small displacement. The thing to do is start slow at the top of a hill and gear it down. 2nd is frequently needed and sometimes 1st if it is real steep. I apply the brakes intermittently to keep them from getting too hot. This has all worked fine for me so far. Others have reported some issues with brakes getting too hot. Hard to say how much is the machine and how much is the driver. (Not flaming anyone here.)
You will have significantly less compression braking than you have had.
You will have significantly less compression braking than you have had.
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#9
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Only had a problem on one Appalachian trail, 35mph limit with many 20mph hairpin turns. 2nd gear wasn't good enough to hold it all back, and the brakes started smelling.
Since then I've been using first gear and letting it rev to 4-5K. No brake problems, but don't think it's so good for the tranny.
Since then I've been using first gear and letting it rev to 4-5K. No brake problems, but don't think it's so good for the tranny.
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Velosprout (02-18-2016)
#10
5.0, 3.55, 4x4, SCREW, 6100 lb. TT.
I've done some very steep grades around the Grand Canyon, Sedona, and Prescott. No problems at all. With tow/haul going downhill I barely need to use the brakes.
I've done some very steep grades around the Grand Canyon, Sedona, and Prescott. No problems at all. With tow/haul going downhill I barely need to use the brakes.
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ModelAMike (02-18-2016)