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My experience:
With a 1607 lb. payload and a 780 lb. tongue weight from a 6740 lb. loaded toy hauler camper and two people and gear in the truck, the truck is loaded to within 50 lbs. of the rear axle weight limit. The "brochure weight" on the camper was 4650 lbs. and the "as built" weight sticker was 5025 lbs.
Look at an XLT instead of the double moon roofed models. It'll probably have 300 lbs. more payload. Or get a smaller camper.
Last edited by atwowheelguy; 07-03-2015 at 09:11 AM.
My experience:
With a 1607 lb. payload and a 780 lb. tongue weight from a 6740 lb. loaded toy hauler camper and two people and gear in the truck, the truck is loaded to within 50 lbs. of the rear axle weight limit. The "brochure weight" on the camper was 4650 lbs. and the "as built" weight sticker was 5025 lbs.
Look at an XLT instead of the double moon roofed models. It'll probably have 300 lbs. more payload. Or get a smaller camper.
OK, so I just read that the max tow package doesn't increase payload capacity. If that's the case, I don't see what adding the max tow package gives me as far as tow capacity, since it seems clear from everyone's discussion here that the limiting factor is payload capacity. Am I missing something, or is what I read incorrect, and max tow actually would help with payload?
Your WD hitch is not properly adjusted. Only 40 pounds is being distributed from the truck axles to the trailer axles. With a tongue weight of 780 pounds, you should have 20% to 25% of the tongue weight distributed back to the trailer axles, or at least 150 pounds. Adjusting the angle of the ball to the coupler should change the percentage of tongue weight distributed to the trailer axles.
OK, so I just read that the max tow package doesn't increase payload capacity. If that's the case, I don't see what adding the max tow package gives me as far as tow capacity, since it seems clear from everyone's discussion here that the limiting factor is payload capacity. Am I missing something, or is what I read incorrect, and max tow actually would help with payload?
If you read carefully Ford states;F-150 • For trailers over 5,000 pounds – Trailer Tow Package or Max Trailer Tow Package
If the truck does not have a tow package then you are held to under 5000lbs period. Run the VIN# to determine what tow package it has. A clear sign of the max tow is a trans cooler in the front. There is an option for just the hitch and wiring, but the max trailer weight is 5000lbs. It must have the tranny cooler for trailers over 5000lbs.
A clear sign of the max tow is a trans cooler in the front.
Misleading. Regular Trailer Tow Package and Max Trailer Tow Package both come with an oil-to-air heat exchanger (tranny cooler) in front of the radiator - also called the auxiliary transmission oil cooler. In previous model years, the regular tow pkg was std on Lariat and above trim levels, but for 2015 it's no longer standard on ny trim level.
The tranny cooler in the radiator is still standard on any F-150, but to get the auxiliary tranny oil cooler you have to have an optional trailer tow pkg, either regular or max tow.
...The tranny cooler in the radiator is still standard on any F-150, but to get the auxiliary tranny oil cooler you have to have an optional trailer tow pkg, either regular or max tow....
F-150s with the trailer tow package have two so-called tranny coolers. One is an oil-to-water (OTW) heat exchanger in the bottom of the radiator. The coolant in the bottom of the radiator is rarely over 200° F., so that heat exchanger does a good job of cooling the ATF to about 200° when not towing. But when towing, the OTW cooler can be overcome with the heat of ATF that can reach temps of over 300° or more before the OTW heat exchanger sucks some of the heat out. In that case, the hot ATF can still be over the 225° red line when the ATF returns back into the tranny.
So in those F-150s that have a trailer tow pkg, Ford added an auxiliary oil-to-air (OTA) heat exchanger to further cool the hot ATF before it returns o the tranny pan.
Looking at Ford parts catalog online, I see only one auxiliary tranny cooler for 2011-up F-150s, so I assume there is no difference between the auxiliary tranny coolers with the regular tow pkg and the max tow pkg. But if your F-150 doesn't have either trailer tow pkg, then it probably doesn't have an auxiliary (OTA) heat exchanger, but you still have the standard OTW tranny cooler.
Can anyone else confirm or advise? Or, point me in the right direction?
I just want to be very sure, as this is not something I can afford to find out later was incorrect. Thanks again!
Order what you want/need!!! The sales guy just wants to sell you inventory. At a minimum, you need Max Tow. Even better, get the HD Payload which has a payload of about 2400 vs 1850 (Max Tow). Otherwise, you will be adding springs/air bags/HD shocks trying to make it tow well.
07-03-2015, 08:57 AM
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