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Old 07-11-2015, 11:15 PM
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you have to look closely at your door sticker. the gross weight rating is what you need to look at. this truck is rated for 7000 pounds including passengers. you need a vehicle in the 9000-10000 pound class. if you get in a accident police and your insurance company will not be happy with you. upgrading the hitch will not help.
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Dealer said I was good to go...seems legit!
Old 07-16-2015, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Brutus10
Dealer said I was good to go...seems legit!

Looks overloaded to me. Even with a dually, the back end is squatting and the headlights are aiming at the stars. What does the CAT scale say?
Old 07-16-2015, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by smokeywren
Looks overloaded to me. Even with a dually, the back end is squatting and the headlights are aiming at the stars. What does the CAT scale say?
:EDIT: thats a 5th-wheel, my brain isnt working :P

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Old 07-16-2015, 11:01 AM
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I owned a 2013 Toyota Tacoma 4x4 SR5 V6. We bought a Keystone Passport 238ML (3900lbs dry, 495 hitch weight). We loaded it up and with all the payload (motorcycles in the bed, generator, etc.) the tacoma towed it, but ... not beautifully.

Upgraded January, 2015 to a 2015 F-150 MaxTow, 3.5L, 6.5' bed, etc.
May 2015, we sold the Keystone and bought a Forest River Stealth WA2916 (8600lbs dry, 1050 hitch weight). We towed it home and even with my WDH, I felt the truck was too light, too small. I was getting pushed around more than I preferred. 35' is a long sail. Besides, it wasn't even loaded up, and fully loaded, could I stop it well?

Just 2 weeks ago, upgraded to a F-250 diesel. Just driving this thing down the block, you realize that it is a TRUCK and the F-150 is a plush riding truck that rides like a car. Your organs get sloshed around in an unloaded F-250. I am re-pulling my trailer next weekend, but I can't imagine this F-250 won't pull it like a dream.

Of course, the dealer told me "yeah you're rated for like 10,700lbs, you can pull right to the limit, force underrates these things always. and payload, you're fine with a WDH!, load her up". stupid.
Old 07-16-2015, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Brutus10


Dealer said I was good to go...seems legit!
What year is that 5ver trailer....looks old school, which is cool. Seems to be a lower profile setup.
Funny....any RV Dealer is gonna say no problem you can pull that...realistically you can, just beware of the dreaded 6-7% grades pulling up in elevations and overheating.
When I first bought my 14 XLT 4x4 Off Road Max Tow Boost....man I thought I could tow pretty much any load maxed out. But than my truck got T-Boned, and the whole dynamics of the truck changed...as well as my "superman towing mentality"-lol
I'm not new to the towing game, but when Ford advertises pulling a flatbed with 2 vehicles on it, running on a Nascar track wide open for 24hrs....well, your like- hell yeah mine can do that!> Not so sure now.
Ford is trying to work out my overheating issues while towing my 8k Springdale TT? Never happened before the accident.
I guess my point is....if your going to pull extreme loads over long distances, look into an F250 or 350 powerstroke....IMO.
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Old 07-16-2015, 03:55 PM
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OK, so I just read that the max tow package doesn't increase payload capacity. If that's the case, I don't see what adding the max tow package gives me as far as tow capacity, since it seems clear from everyone's discussion here that the limiting factor is payload capacity. Am I missing something, or is what I read incorrect, and max tow actually would help with payload?

For 2011 thru 2014, the max tow pkg increased GVWR (and therefore payload capacity) by 500 pounds. But for the 2015 model year, nothing in the Ford sales picth indicates that Max Tow still increases GVWR.


So what do you gain with Max Tow that's not available with the regular tow pkg plus a couple of stand alone options? Good question! You get the integrated trailer brake controller (ITBC), but that's also a stand-alone option. You get the 3.55 e-locker axle, but that's also available as a stand-alone option. So it looks like all you get is the upgraded rear bumper. Max Tow no longer includes tow mirrors, but they are still available as a stand-alone option.


So all you get is a stronger rear bumper and an increase in GCWR (tow rating). So you can pull a heavier trailer that has minimal hitch weight (such as a farmer's cotton trailer or grain trailer), but not a heavier travel trailer.


For 2015, if you want to tow a TT that grosses more than about 5,000 or maybe 6,000 pounds, then you need the heavy duty payload package.
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LOL I have no clue about the setup. It's not mine. I saw that picture on another forum and saved it because I thought it was funny. I was just pointing out that no matter what the dealer will tell you that you are good. They don't care once you pay and get off the lot.
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This is my setup. I ran a few F150s (04' 5.4L, 10' 5.4L, 13' 3.5L EB) for about 8 years pulling similar trailers and they all did the job. Each one better than the last. I even pulled my last trailer (35' TT weighing around 8,000#) from SC to WA over all those mountains with my 13' F-150 Ecobeast without any issues other than backing it over the top of my wife's C-Max in South Dakota. Having enough power wasn't the problem. The problem was stability. I decided that I wanted a bigger truck so I wasn't all over the road when the wind hit me. I have not been disappointed. I don't regret my decision at all. The F-150's are capable trucks, but they don't compare to the SDs when it comes to pulling a heavy load. If I had to go back and do it all over again, rather than going through the endless cycle of bigger truck=bigger trailer=bigger truck=bigger trailer... I would have just started with the SD PSD. It would have saved me a lot of money in the long run.
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Originally Posted by Brutus10
This is my setup. I ran a few F150s (04' 5.4L, 10' 5.4L, 13' 3.5L EB) for about 8 years pulling similar trailers and they all did the job. Each one better than the last. I even pulled my last trailer (35' TT weighing around 8,000#) from SC to WA over all those mountains with my 13' F-150 Ecobeast without any issues other than backing it over the top of my wife's C-Max in South Dakota. Having enough power wasn't the problem. The problem was stability. I decided that I wanted a bigger truck so I wasn't all over the road when the wind hit me. I have not been disappointed. I don't regret my decision at all. The F-150's are capable trucks, but they don't compare to the SDs when it comes to pulling a heavy load. If I had to go back and do it all over again, rather than going through the endless cycle of bigger truck=bigger trailer=bigger truck=bigger trailer... I would have just started with the SD PSD. It would have saved me a lot of money in the long run.
I think you chimed in to my posts in the past on here or another forum (I am on ford-trucks, powerstroke, thedieselstop, rv.net etc.) where I was all concerned cuz I got this 35' 8500lbs dry trailer, and worried about pulling it with my 2015 F-150... I remember your pic.

Towing it 40 miles home, even with it empty and well within the payload and tow capacity, along with a WDH with sway control, a few big rigs passed me and it was like "the tail wagging the dog" for sure. I never experienced that with my smaller 25' 3900lbs tailer and the 2015 F-150.

Next week, the maiden voyage with the F-250 PSD and the 35'
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