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Old 03-11-2018, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tomt5078 View Post
He said 4x4 with a 2900 payload...................Ur right a 2wd could get to 2900.................
A 4x4 HDPP can have a payload greater than 2900 lbs too.
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Originally Posted by E. Manuel View Post
A 4x4 HDPP can have a payload greater than 2900 lbs too.
You could be right..................But a link to one or a picture of it would be great!!!!!!


Post it up, PLEASE!!!!!
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You have a reg. cab 4x4, lol I was hoping for a supercrew with a 2900 lbs opps!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Gladehound View Post
There is a guy in Canada. I believe the name is Andy T. Who claims a BMW x5 will out emergency handle any 3/4 ton truck with an 8,000 pound TT. He sets the vehicles up and runs them through a test course. I don't know if he actually did the head to head but he certainly has the means to do it.
Andy T. is a highly respected name in the airforum community and he does know his stuff when comes to towing. Not sure if I'd tow w/ a sedan but that man knows how and can do it but for the average person, just cause he can doesn't mean you should
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Andy T. is a highly respected name in the airforum community and he does know his stuff when comes to towing. Not sure if I'd tow w/ a sedan but that man knows how and can do it but for the average person, just cause he can doesn't mean you should
With at least 1 million OTR miles under my belt, a Class A CDL since 1988 and seeing many deaths from people doing stupid things, and doing things with vehicles that were never meant to be doing what they were doing, I don't care HOW respected he is, he is a fool for using a vehicle it was never intended to be used for. One instant is all it takes and he will be DEAD because he was using the inappropriate tow vehicle. A BMW x5 is a Unibody chassis, it does not have the structural integrity to have 8000 pounds being yanked around with. Even if there was a frame welded, not bolted, to the chassis, it then defeats all collision safety features. Someone pulls in front of him while doing 65 and they lose it, he will slam into them and that trailer will go through that BMW. A truck is designed to tow and haul heavy loads, a Car is NOT, an Odyssey is NOT, Any Unibody vehicle has strict limits on how much weight it can tow due to the thin sheet metal used to construct the chassis. I don't care what handles better, when it comes down to which one will protect the occupants in a crash, a Truck will always win! Engineers are paid big bucks to figure this out and what is the safety limits of each and every vehicle. Besides, if you want to race around a slalom with a trailer, there are trailer races in Rockford, race away, otherwise, use your head, common sense, and drive sensibly within your abilities, and don't do anything that puts others in danger. And if that Andy T thinks he can stop faster than my F150 pulling the same trailer, he is an even bigger fool. I know and have done so, stopped my trailer from 70 MPH in a very short distance with plenty of room between me and the vehicle ahead of me when the interstate locked them all up. I never drive beyond my or my vehicles abilities.
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We just bought a 2018 F150 4x4 SUPERCREW 3.5L V6 ECOBOOST and before we bought it the dealer told us that it had a payload of 2300 and could tow 11,300. A week later we are getting ready to start our camper search and started the process of figuring out what we could tow. We will have our family of 6 and a 130lb dog in the truck while towing so a large payload is important to us. We checked the door jamb stickers today and were surprised to see the payload is only 1792 and after going down the rabbit hole of hours of "what can I tow" research it seems that we can only practically tow a TT that is 5,200lbs dry.

We reached out to the dealer that sold us it and he is insisting that the payload is merely a "suggestion" and ours is actually 2300.

Am I crazy? or is he?

EDIT: I should add that the GVWR is 7000 and we weighed it tonight with a tank full of gas, it weighed 5200lbs
I looked through most of the responses to the OP and did not see any reference to the Ford Fleet RV and Trailer Towing Guide. I might have missed it, but here's the link just in case... https://www.fleet.ford.com/resources...e_r3_Feb14.pdf You will find towing capacities for the F-150 starting on page 18 of the 2018 guide. I believe your truck is listed in the middle of page 19.

Hope this helps. Peace... Mack

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I looked through most of the responses to the OP and did not see any reference to the Ford Fleet RV and Trailer Towing Guide. I might have missed it, but here's the link just in case... https://www.fleet.ford.com/resources...e_r3_Feb14.pdf You will find towing capacities for the F-150 starting on page 18 of the 2018 guide. I believe your truck is listed in the middle of page 19.

Hope this helps. Peace... Mack
The towing guide, take it with a grain of salt(whatever that means LOL), That guide is based on a no/low optioned truck with specific tow packages installed. You use it for a baseline, then use the payload stamped on the door or post to determine your actual towing capacity, with the ONLY exception being a flat tow with no tongue weight. If you notice, there is no breakdown for trims, so in "theory" an XL trim, which is the base trim, with Base options and correct tow package, can tow those amounts. Start upping the trim and options and that number drops. My truck, in "Theory" should be able to tow a 12,700 pound conventional trailer, and I can tell you that the most it can tow is a 6500 pound trailer without going over any of the axle weights while maintaining a safe 13% tongue weight.
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With at least 1 million OTR miles under my belt, a Class A CDL since 1988
I have no allegiance to anyone w/ towing experience but I do have to say you, Andy, and others here have given us lots of great information and we all appreciate it, EOM
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