We got a 2021 Expedition in March of this year. The Expy loaded is 5,880 pounds. Expy with Rv is 13,920 pounds. Tongue weight using Sherline Trailer Tongue Weight Scale 850 pounds. All weights are under specs.

Can't get it to level out even with weight distributing hitch. Ford states they have a-lot of problems like this, mainly due to the CCD. The CCD prevents any changes or additions such as lift bags or shocks.

We will be trading up and getting a Powerboost F150.

Does anyone tow with a unit with CCD? I can find some new ones on the ground, but they also have the CCD.

 

You are in F250 territory

 

Are you sure you are looking at F150s with CCD? I never heard of it and a quick search looks like expedition only.

From the numbers above it looks like you are in a ~9,000lbs travel trailer. How long is it?

It looks like you are somewhere between my current and prior TTs so I agree with Spencer and a 3/4 or one ton is the way to go unless you order a HDPP F150. My F150 is fairly well equipped for towing and it was never safe with the old TT. It is fine with my current TT. While I am not familiar with the expedition that seems like way too much trailer for it.

 

Trailer is 6,600 pounds. I found a few on-line with CCD, but it scares me since having the trouble with the Expedition. I don't know how long it might take to order one exactly like we want.




Ford ordering guide

 

I believe the CCD option only changes the front shocks, the rears remain the same. Double chek me on that but I believe that is what I have read.

Regardless, Not sure why they would interfere /w a WDH setup as the only difference is the shocks dynamically adjust their rate in response to road conditions.

I ordered it on my truck, curious how much of a difference it makes.

Im not standing in front of your setup so I dont mean to doubt you but I would think you would have something else going on /w the WDH setup and its nothing to do /w the CCD.

 

Trailer + Expedition = 13,920lb
Loaded Expedition = 5880lb
Trailer = 6600lb

Math doesn't add up there.

CCD changes the rate of dampening, it does not change the ride height. If you can't get enough weight distributed, you've got the wrong weight bars for your tongue weight.

You're not going to level any vehicle with a weight distribution hitch. Even with one, most of the weight goes onto the rear axle so you have enough traction to avoid snap oversteer. Most front axles only have a few hundred pounds of additional capacity as the WDH only needs to move enough weight to the front axles to retain positive steering characteristics.

An F150 is designed to retain proper handling with up to 500lb of weight on the hitch. Expeditions are similar. After that, only a percentage of additional weight needs to go to the front axle. There is no way to return a vehicle to it's original rake with a WDH without having way too much weight on the front axle. If one were to do that, the front axle would ride very harshly, and the rear would be prone to sliding out.

 

Yea, what he said. You said the same thing as I did only better lol.

 

Re: There is no way to return a vehicle to it's original rake with a WDH without having way too much weight on the front axle.

just one clarification on that statement, you can restore rake with wdh AND air bags. It does take a fair amount of adjusting, some visits to scales to get it right.

In my case I added 1-1/2” of front height (Bilstiens) so I really wanted to restore rear height when loaded to keep the remaining rake

 

As said, math doesn't add up. Looks more like an 8,000 lbs trailer. If your Expedition is loaded to 5,880 lbs, I suspect with tongue weight of about 1,000 lbs you are vastly overloading the Expedition.

Which is why it still sags while using the correct WDH.

 

Sorry, didn't mean to steal ya thundah!


I skipped that in the hope OP will get a good grasp on dialing in a WDH before going after looks. I've come across way too many that threw on a WDH and bags at the same time the first time out and called it good. Several trailers and trucks later, their trucks still ride harsh because they never bothered to tweak their WDH after the air bags made everything 'look right'.