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Catastrophic Failure. Trailer Hitch, 2004 F150.

Old 10-07-2016, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirttracker18
Why do you assume it is over capacity?

Is there something in that image I am missing that allows you to measure the weight on that tongue?

Having towed trailers like that I am assuming it a single horse trailer (judging by the tongue design). That would put the entire set up (trailer and horse, assuming it was in the trailer at the time) at less than 4000#.

How is that over capacity?

I could be completely wrong here and maybe it is way over but I just don't see how you are making that assumption?
Are you suggesting that the tongue weight was 500 pounds or less? I judged from the description, and the picture, that it was more than 500 pounds and therefore over capacity.

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Old 10-07-2016, 04:09 PM
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The best solution to this whole deal IMHO is a heavier duty hitch. I recommend a class IV hitch which is able to handle up to 1200 Tongue Weight and 12k Gross Weight. For F150s not as common but on my F250s I always replaced the factory hitch with the class IV hitch if not so equipped. My Dad always had a big boat and the standard hitch and receivers were not rated high enough.

For big big tow jobs they even make a Class VI that is rated at 2k and 20k.

etrailer.com is great source for Q&A for information like this. Here are some more details on all Hitches: https://www.etrailer.com/faq-hitchclasses.aspx
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How do you know what class hitch you have? I have the hitch that comes with the factory tow package.

My hitch sticker says FOMOCO, V-5

Distribution weight. Total 10,500. Tongue. 1500
Carry weight. Total 5,000. Tongue 500

I take it this is a Class IV hitch?

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Old 10-07-2016, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ricktwuhk
Are you suggesting that the tongue weight was 500 pounds or less? I judged from the description, and the picture, that it was more than 500 pounds and therefore over capacity.
As was noted already, a WDH does not reduce the stress on the hitch but redistributes weight. The OP already noted the failure as due to rust.

However, yes I am suggesting the hitch weight was not an issue. Unless it was a much larger than it appears trailer loaded with horses, no it was very likely not over capacity.

I still fail to see how one could assume it was over capacity by the picture posted. All we see is a small part of the tongue.
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Originally Posted by Davidmackv
How do you know what class hitch you have? I have the hitch that comes with the factory tow package.

My hitch sticker says FOMOCO, V-5

Distribution weight. Total 10,500. Tongue. 1500
Carry weight. Total 5,000. Tongue 500

I take it this is a Class IV hitch?
Class 4, with an engineering spec for a tad more weight.
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You cant beat mother nature and add some salt and bang,rust and life happens,its to late to worry about load ratings,fix it and keep a eye on the rust in the future.glad the frame looks to be in good shape.
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Originally Posted by Dirttracker18
Why do you assume it is over capacity?

Is there something in that image I am missing that allows you to measure the weight on that tongue?

Having towed trailers like that I am assuming it a single horse trailer (judging by the tongue design). That would put the entire set up (trailer and horse, assuming it was in the trailer at the time) at less than 4000#.

How is that over capacity?

I could be completely wrong here and maybe it is way over but I just don't see how you are making that assumption?
The trailer was filled with 90 bales of hay. The load was pretty balanced over the wheels. In fact, the front two feet on the trailer were empty. The rear end of the truck was not sinking at all. There was a lot of load on the trailer as I backed it up a slight incline into the driveway though. Assuming 50 pounds a bale, the trailer was carrying 4500 pounds of hay. Add the weight of the trailer (3700 pounds), I don't think I exceeded the truck's capacity. I have a 5 L V8, 4WD, and the factory trailer package.
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It's at the dealer to find out if the frame and mounts are OK. If there's rot, I'm looking at a new truck. I didn't think that 12 year old trucks rotted anymore.

Saying prayers it's just the hitch.


And yes, they indicated that the factory sells a class IV with the trailer tow package.
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Originally Posted by rogersmithiii
The trailer was filled with 90 bales of hay. The load was pretty balanced over the wheels. In fact, the front two feet on the trailer were empty. The rear end of the truck was not sinking at all. There was a lot of load on the trailer as I backed it up a slight incline into the driveway though. Assuming 50 pounds a bale, the trailer was carrying 4500 pounds of hay. Add the weight of the trailer (3700 pounds), I don't think I exceeded the truck's capacity. I have a 5 L V8, 4WD, and the factory trailer package.
So you're estimating 8200# for the loaded trailer. You listed the hitch weight capacity at 1500. Was that a typo? I suspect it's actually 1050 for the factory hitch. That's just under 13% of 8200 #. You were very likely at or near (or over) the capacity of the hitch.
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The good news is that it didn't let go going down the highway. The good news is that the frame was OK, and I didn't need a new truck.

The bad news is that the mounting plates were bent, and all the hardware was rusted together. It took 6 hours of labor to get the old hitch off, and the new one finished. $1500 for the job. $460 just for the hitch.

Ouch.

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