Benefit if any Towing 33ft. TT, having HD payload package on 2012 F 150 eco
06-03-2012, 05:59 PM
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bell4fan and Mister D Ha! I hear ya! I use a 92 GMC 3500 454engine 1 ton duelly to pull my float hauling my D-3 Cat. and understand about pushing the max. I don't do it for long distances. Like I plan with the TT and F150...Also that I guess is why I'm so concerned.
Thanks Mr. D yes dry weights are under fords recommendations especially with the addition of the HD payload package I plan as another option as well as the Max. tow. You have nearly same Trailer size as mine which says on the side GVMR 8010lbs. although I haven't run it across the scales. That said I feel better after reading your reply!
Thanks Mr. D yes dry weights are under fords recommendations especially with the addition of the HD payload package I plan as another option as well as the Max. tow. You have nearly same Trailer size as mine which says on the side GVMR 8010lbs. although I haven't run it across the scales. That said I feel better after reading your reply!
06-05-2012, 07:15 PM
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If I were spending msrp of nearly 50grand and doing what your saying I would no dought get a 250 gasser. The HD and max tow will make you close but if this is going to be your tow vehicle for several years with your grizz in the bed and then not to mention some little things here and there your going to be bumming. Its not your EB its as several have said the whole truck. You could contemplate going with a class III hitch reinforced on the rear bumper of the tt, run some electric back there and pull a 4x8 trailer with your quad in it behind the camper. I know that would be long but this to me would be a better Idea if I were traveling more than an hour or two. The super duty does ride well but the 150 is far more comfortable for a daily driver. Your rt there and it may just come down to your choice and comfort level. I am not one of those you need more truck guys but this is rt on the fringe. Good luck to you
06-06-2012, 09:08 AM
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magblue10, you have some good ideas concerning towing with atb. I did just order the eco boost yesterday.
Pulling my TT with my friends Ecoboost w/o Max Tow or HD package. Did well, so believe I'm going in the right direction. Should get it in 6 weeks. Thanks for the input!
Pulling my TT with my friends Ecoboost w/o Max Tow or HD package. Did well, so believe I'm going in the right direction. Should get it in 6 weeks. Thanks for the input!
06-12-2012, 02:28 AM
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I just bought a F150 4x4 Crew with the Ecoboost. I "highly' recommend you order it with the Max trailer tow package. I think you regret anything less later. The mirrors, & towing setup safety and versatility of that setup is worth the extra money easy. The 3.5L Ecoboost will do better towing and save you fuel when not towing. Towing I get 12 MPG with a 23' travel trailer, but around tow I get 20 MPG if I keep my foot out of it. I've towed for 45 years & the brake controller is the best I've ever seen. The Ecoboost tows like a small diesel with a little less power than the earlier 5.9 Cummins diesels. Not as strong, but plenty adequate and better than any other gasser in my opinion. I towed through the Sierras and the mountains of Norther Oregon with no power problems. I've towed with just about ever thing out their in gas & diesel and towing I know!!! The Ecoboost is the best setup unless money is no option. A diesel will tow better, but cost much more up front with no real fuel savings at modern diesel prices. I could afford any diesel or gasser, but I chose the Ecoboost as the best choice for economy & ride "when not towing", plus more than adequate towing power. 
07-23-2012, 06:25 PM
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I plan on buying the EB because it can tow 11,300 lbs as compared to a 5.0 than only can tow 9,500. You guys got me thinking, thanks for that. Cause when I spend the big bucks I don't want to look back and say "woulda, coulda shoulda".
I have a Crossroads zinger 33QB Travel Trailer 8010lbs loaded 950 tongue weight I have anti sway bar and load leveler bars on trailer tongue ....I have been deciding on buying the Ecoboost with Max Trailer towing and Heavy Duty payload package. That will bring it to 11,300 max towing..The HD payload package will give me xtra 600 lbs loaded weight(from 7550lbs. to 8200lbs. payload) along with beefier rear end shocks and springs (so hopefully may not need airbags).
Last week I tried my friends 2011 Eco boost w/o the HD package. It did have towing but didn't think it had the Max Towing because it didn't have telescoping chrome trailer mirrors or the Trailer brake controller. Even so I hooked on to my trailer and pulled for about 20 miles around in 25 to 30 mph. crosswinds. The power to pull seemed fine The front didn't raise up or feel too light, as compared to the 2006 F-150 Triton 5.4 of my sons I tried earlier. I feel with the HD springs and Max tow packages should address any concerns.
The specs compairing both:
F250 with 6.2 gas engine 385 HP. 405 torque F150 ecoboost 365hp. 420torque
F250 wheelbase crewcab 156.2' F150 wB supercrew 156.5"
F250 GVWR (max payload W/O trailer) 10,000lbs. F150 (w/HDpackage) 8200lbs.
F250 GVMR (inc. towing) 19,000lbs. F150 (w/max tow and HD package) 17,100lbs.
Benefit of F-150 ..better gas mileage disadvantage may cost more with xtra options to make it comparable to F250. Guys I'm still searching and haven't really talked with anyone who has a ecoboost with both Max towing and HDpackage towing a 8010lb. loaded trailer along with stuff in the P/U bed of the f-150 wish I could but haven't yet..
Any input good or bad please let me know.
I have a Crossroads zinger 33QB Travel Trailer 8010lbs loaded 950 tongue weight I have anti sway bar and load leveler bars on trailer tongue ....I have been deciding on buying the Ecoboost with Max Trailer towing and Heavy Duty payload package. That will bring it to 11,300 max towing..The HD payload package will give me xtra 600 lbs loaded weight(from 7550lbs. to 8200lbs. payload) along with beefier rear end shocks and springs (so hopefully may not need airbags).
Last week I tried my friends 2011 Eco boost w/o the HD package. It did have towing but didn't think it had the Max Towing because it didn't have telescoping chrome trailer mirrors or the Trailer brake controller. Even so I hooked on to my trailer and pulled for about 20 miles around in 25 to 30 mph. crosswinds. The power to pull seemed fine The front didn't raise up or feel too light, as compared to the 2006 F-150 Triton 5.4 of my sons I tried earlier. I feel with the HD springs and Max tow packages should address any concerns.
The specs compairing both:
F250 with 6.2 gas engine 385 HP. 405 torque F150 ecoboost 365hp. 420torque
F250 wheelbase crewcab 156.2' F150 wB supercrew 156.5"
F250 GVWR (max payload W/O trailer) 10,000lbs. F150 (w/HDpackage) 8200lbs.
F250 GVMR (inc. towing) 19,000lbs. F150 (w/max tow and HD package) 17,100lbs.
Benefit of F-150 ..better gas mileage disadvantage may cost more with xtra options to make it comparable to F250. Guys I'm still searching and haven't really talked with anyone who has a ecoboost with both Max towing and HDpackage towing a 8010lb. loaded trailer along with stuff in the P/U bed of the f-150 wish I could but haven't yet..
Any input good or bad please let me know.
Anyhow, the suspension seems to handle the tongue weight and braking hard doesnt send the trailer into a dive, nor send my headlights to the stars. Are loads and lengths are similar. Let me know what questions you got and I'll try to answer what I can. Cheers,
JL
07-24-2012, 09:43 AM
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JL sounds you are hauling about same as I will. One thing you will notice a world of difference is installing a weight dist. hitch ..I have one hauling my TT with my 1 ton..really helps....also you might get your setup loaded the way you do on a trip Then go to a truck stop and run it across the scales weigh everything (trk and trailer with car and gear) then unhook trailer and car, leave on scales and just weigh trailer with car ..then move trailer tongue off the scales and just weigh trailer with car (that way you can subtract that weight from total weight of trailer and get your tongue weight!) I did that last week and found out I have 7000lb tt loaded with 54 gallons of freshwater and my tongue weight is #1320 lbs.! I thought it would be 900 to 1000lbs and have a EZ hitch rated for #1000lbs. (but that hitch still helps the road feel even if its lighter that what I needed). I should get my EB F150 with Tow and HD payload hopefully August 1st! Then will see how thing will really ride! Is that a M3 in your avatar? I have a 2003 M3...love that car!
07-24-2012, 11:24 PM
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JL sounds you are hauling about same as I will. One thing you will notice a world of difference is installing a weight dist. hitch ..I have one hauling my TT with my 1 ton..really helps....also you might get your setup loaded the way you do on a trip Then go to a truck stop and run it across the scales weigh everything (trk and trailer with car and gear) then unhook trailer and car, leave on scales and just weigh trailer with car ..then move trailer tongue off the scales and just weigh trailer with car (that way you can subtract that weight from total weight of trailer and get your tongue weight!) I did that last week and found out I have 7000lb tt loaded with 54 gallons of freshwater and my tongue weight is #1320 lbs.! I thought it would be 900 to 1000lbs and have a EZ hitch rated for #1000lbs. (but that hitch still helps the road feel even if its lighter that what I needed). I should get my EB F150 with Tow and HD payload hopefully August 1st! Then will see how thing will really ride! Is that a M3 in your avatar? I have a 2003 M3...love that car!
Yup. Track prepped M3. I love it far too much. Trailering to Watkins Glen next week for some racing.
09-21-2012, 02:05 PM
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JL sounds you are hauling about same as I will. One thing you will notice a world of difference is installing a weight dist. hitch ..I have one hauling my TT with my 1 ton..really helps....also you might get your setup loaded the way you do on a trip Then go to a truck stop and run it across the scales weigh everything (trk and trailer with car and gear) then unhook trailer and car, leave on scales and just weigh trailer with car ..then move trailer tongue off the scales and just weigh trailer with car (that way you can subtract that weight from total weight of trailer and get your tongue weight!) I did that last week and found out I have 7000lb tt loaded with 54 gallons of freshwater and my tongue weight is #1320 lbs.! I thought it would be 900 to 1000lbs and have a EZ hitch rated for #1000lbs. (but that hitch still helps the road feel even if its lighter that what I needed). I should get my EB F150 with Tow and HD payload hopefully August 1st! Then will see how thing will really ride! Is that a M3 in your avatar? I have a 2003 M3...love that car!
09-21-2012, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jgalaxy
Well, it's been a few months now and about 10K Km of trailering. I've also had the wonderful pleasure to tow at night a few times. So after noticing that my lights seemed a little dimmer than normal one evening I decided to actually do some measuring to better understand the trucks stance. Sure enough the rear was sitting a little lower than the front. I'm now arranging for a weight distribution hitch (WDH) and will also likely end up installing an air bag kit for the rear to stiffen it up a little while under trailer load. Other than that the truck pulls well and handles the trailer weight and length reasonably well. I'm sure the WDH will improve handling and drive-ability as well.