another towing question
#1
another towing question
this towing question has a twist in it ;P
i have a 2013 ford f150 xlt regular cab 8 foot bed 4x4 with 5.0L 3:55 gears
i know how much i can pull (trailer) but now, i have modified the suspension! it has a tough country 6" lift with 35" tires on 20" rims, my questions are: can i pull the same trailer? can i tow more or less?
not planning to tow much, looking to buy a small travel trailer under 6500# (truck WAS rated @ 8100# towing (ford specs) ) and a small tandem axle trailer for my ninja and boulevard
i already drive slow when hauling stuff, not planning on going over 60mph.
your toughts?
thanks
P.S. i'm a newbie on this site
i have a 2013 ford f150 xlt regular cab 8 foot bed 4x4 with 5.0L 3:55 gears
i know how much i can pull (trailer) but now, i have modified the suspension! it has a tough country 6" lift with 35" tires on 20" rims, my questions are: can i pull the same trailer? can i tow more or less?
not planning to tow much, looking to buy a small travel trailer under 6500# (truck WAS rated @ 8100# towing (ford specs) ) and a small tandem axle trailer for my ninja and boulevard
i already drive slow when hauling stuff, not planning on going over 60mph.
your toughts?
thanks
P.S. i'm a newbie on this site
#2
oh! i forgot! alot of people include their family in their post to see what they carry with them when traveling, i got nothing!!! no wife/girlfriend/kids/dogs/cats/goldfish/hamster ect....just me myself & i :P
#3
The 35's with 3:55 are gonna hurt. You'll be putting a lot of extra strain on the tranny, larger and heavier rolling mass and your going to think your tank has a hole in it- and even with all that get up n' go the 5.0 has, you won't be winning any races. Also, with the lift, any and all towing specifications should be justly thrown out the window...
That being said. In the rear, I believe the RC kit uses a taller block, no? You can get oversized airbags to help there- since the lift will amplify the bulldog look a bit since I think the lifts level the truck out too. The front end- not much can, or to, be done. You will have the OEM coilovers still with a giant spacer up top. I don't think you will need to do anything up there.
If there is one thing I *personally* would keep a very CLOSE eye on- it's your ball joints and tie rod ends. The 6" lift puts some angle on those, add in the heavier 35" rubber and then the weight of a trailer on the back... might make me a tad more attentive to them.
In short- tons of guys do this. No reason you can't. It will be more of a learn-on-the-fly game now, but honestly, can't see why your rig will be any less capable or totally different than before. Just a couple of different items to pay more attention to now
That being said. In the rear, I believe the RC kit uses a taller block, no? You can get oversized airbags to help there- since the lift will amplify the bulldog look a bit since I think the lifts level the truck out too. The front end- not much can, or to, be done. You will have the OEM coilovers still with a giant spacer up top. I don't think you will need to do anything up there.
If there is one thing I *personally* would keep a very CLOSE eye on- it's your ball joints and tie rod ends. The 6" lift puts some angle on those, add in the heavier 35" rubber and then the weight of a trailer on the back... might make me a tad more attentive to them.
In short- tons of guys do this. No reason you can't. It will be more of a learn-on-the-fly game now, but honestly, can't see why your rig will be any less capable or totally different than before. Just a couple of different items to pay more attention to now
Last edited by smurfs_of_war; 02-02-2014 at 01:32 AM.
#4
Grumpy Old Man
can i tow more or less?
...not planning to tow much, looking to buy a small travel trailer under 6500# (truck WAS rated @ 8100# towing (ford specs) ) ...
... and a small tandem axle trailer for my ninja and boulevard...
But moving to a fifth wheel trailer to make the second trailer legal takes you from the frying pan into the fire. 5ers have more hitch weight than TTs, so it's much easier to overload your F-150 with a small 5er than with a small TT.
Instead of a tandem axle trailer for the toys, look into one of those cargo carriers that connects to the TT with a double receiver, then has one or two small dolly wheels to carry most of the weight on the dolly. No, I have CRS and can't find a link to one right now. Or maybe a HogHauler double carrier, such as this one? Except you would haul them behind the TT instead of behind the tow vehicle.
Last edited by smokeywren; 02-02-2014 at 03:11 PM.
#5
thanks for the imput
i'm choosing a small rv because i don't need much, it will be pulled by a 1996 mack ch613 to job site, just in case i need to move it, i want it small enough to be able to pull it with the f150, as for the motorcycles they are gonna be in a small 2000lbs tandem enclosed trailer pull by my truck with my boss behind the wheel.
before the truck, i had a 2012 ford focus with automatic trans. and i pulled a trailer with my 2 bikes in it with all my stuff in the car! the trailer with the bikes weighed about 2600lbs on a 2000lbs aftermarket hitch and made it from montreal to red deer no problem.....exept for gas! on a car that did 740km/tank (47 litres) all loaded up it did an average of 320!!! i expected that from a small car with a 2.0L 160 hp engine!
but now i make good money and hardly ever get to drive my truck so i dont really care about gas and i am white but not white enough to start racing my truck with a trailer behind it, so performance is not an issue :P
i am going to keep an eye on key parts and invest in a few like trans cooler and air bags like you guys mentioned, i bought the truck to take it off road and go places that i will mention eventually, more mods to come, i love to show off so pics will be posted from time to time
here is a pic of my babies together ...........with my old focus in the background
i'm choosing a small rv because i don't need much, it will be pulled by a 1996 mack ch613 to job site, just in case i need to move it, i want it small enough to be able to pull it with the f150, as for the motorcycles they are gonna be in a small 2000lbs tandem enclosed trailer pull by my truck with my boss behind the wheel.
before the truck, i had a 2012 ford focus with automatic trans. and i pulled a trailer with my 2 bikes in it with all my stuff in the car! the trailer with the bikes weighed about 2600lbs on a 2000lbs aftermarket hitch and made it from montreal to red deer no problem.....exept for gas! on a car that did 740km/tank (47 litres) all loaded up it did an average of 320!!! i expected that from a small car with a 2.0L 160 hp engine!
but now i make good money and hardly ever get to drive my truck so i dont really care about gas and i am white but not white enough to start racing my truck with a trailer behind it, so performance is not an issue :P
i am going to keep an eye on key parts and invest in a few like trans cooler and air bags like you guys mentioned, i bought the truck to take it off road and go places that i will mention eventually, more mods to come, i love to show off so pics will be posted from time to time
here is a pic of my babies together ...........with my old focus in the background
#6
This is really hard to give a solid answer for. The 35's are going to bust your gearing down to about the equivalent of 3.20's, maybe less. The good part is that the truck may not care. If the truck will hold good RPM at the speed that you are travelling than you are good. It really doesn't matter what gear you are in. So, if you can hold 2800 RPM in second gear than good. You may actually have to drive faster so that you get 2400 RPM in third, which is better. I am not saying that those will be the numbers but you get the idea. For me, beauty truck like that, I'd drop a set of 4.11's in it (FORD U.S. have them as an option in their trucks) which would put you very close back to overall stock.
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#8
You will not see any sort of difference between 3.73's and 3.55's...virtually the same gear....100 rpm difference. Go straight to the 4.11's and that will bring you and your 35's back to having the same over all gearing as with the bone stock tires and a 3.55 gear set. There are plenty of internet programs out there that you can use that were made for exactly what you are doing.