Aftermarket or Better trailer hitches
01-09-2019, 10:49 PM
#61
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These guys are here in Colorado where I reside. I’ve dealt with them many times and can assure you that they are experts in hitches and more. Give them a call and if they don’t have what you want they will make it.
http://lamperthitch.com/
http://lamperthitch.com/
01-09-2019, 10:55 PM
#62
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I know nothing about towing or hitches. I am a moderator on a very busy motorcycle forum that happens to own an f150. Joe, no one is trolling you or spamming you as you put. They are giving legitimate answers. Please don't waste the mods time. I suggest you look up the definition of trolling and spam. That is not what is going on here. You are being given the same advice by several different people. You have chosen not to listen which is your prerogative but to claim trolling and reporting to the mods is completely ridiculous. If you're not going to take the advice then don't argue for the sake of arguing. Put on whatever hitch you want since you're the only expert on this forum and good luck.
The issue I’m having is I don’t want to buy something or not buy something off bad info. They should try to keep the threads clean somewhat.
Lots of misinformation on chat forums. I blow a lot of time on these forums chatting around but try to keep it factual.
01-09-2019, 10:56 PM
#63
just some guy
Just dropping all that weight on a ball behind your axle will always drop your *** end and lift the front. No receiver in the land can change that. Physics.
01-09-2019, 11:12 PM
#64
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We’ll see but I’ve had to change the hitches on a couple dodges for this reason. It’s a safety factor if your using it all the time and getting deeper into the frame will help with the performance overall as that’s basic geometry.
The ford hitch isn’t bad if you use it as intended but I’ll never put a WDH on different trailers and 500 is low. I’m going to go off what Ford says unless I can find different info and not overload my junk.
I don’t get what the big deal is, kinda comical. I’ll use my seat of the pants and compare this set up to our regular tow package long bed and see if I wasted my time and money.
The ford hitch isn’t bad if you use it as intended but I’ll never put a WDH on different trailers and 500 is low. I’m going to go off what Ford says unless I can find different info and not overload my junk.
I don’t get what the big deal is, kinda comical. I’ll use my seat of the pants and compare this set up to our regular tow package long bed and see if I wasted my time and money.
01-09-2019, 11:50 PM
#66
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Well at the minimum if something happens i can reference the Ford site and hitch manufacturer literature. Maybe a waste but not a bad $200 investment.
Can’t believe no one has changed the hitches on these. My 2015 Lariat was a garage queen with less than 1000 miles towing. Gonna put this 2.7 to work, so glad to be out of a 250 daily on a side note.
Curious to see how the F-150 longbeds work out.
Can’t believe no one has changed the hitches on these. My 2015 Lariat was a garage queen with less than 1000 miles towing. Gonna put this 2.7 to work, so glad to be out of a 250 daily on a side note.
Curious to see how the F-150 longbeds work out.
01-10-2019, 12:56 AM
#67
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One final comment from me then I'm checking out:
The attached image is from the towing guide, it seems ford doesn't care about the hitch used in these values. That makes sense to me.
What ford is saying, is that a load of 500 pounds pressing down on the vehicle X distance behind the axle (about what 4 feet?) will start to negatively affect the truck in some way. Based on the fact that you can have a heavier tongue weight with a WDH, it is NOT the weight on the hitch that is the limiting factor. WDH or not, there is still the same weight for a given trailer, but a WDH also applies a torque that helps spreads that weight.
I'll reiterate: changing the hitch will not change the fact that Ford thinks that a load greater than 500 lbs on the hitch (any hitch) will make the vehicle unsafe.
You talk about keeping to the facts, this is just the facts that follow the sound physics.
The reason you have a payload over 500 pounds is that typically some of that payload will be at or in front of the rear axle, and thus spreading the weight around.
The attached image is from the towing guide, it seems ford doesn't care about the hitch used in these values. That makes sense to me.
What ford is saying, is that a load of 500 pounds pressing down on the vehicle X distance behind the axle (about what 4 feet?) will start to negatively affect the truck in some way. Based on the fact that you can have a heavier tongue weight with a WDH, it is NOT the weight on the hitch that is the limiting factor. WDH or not, there is still the same weight for a given trailer, but a WDH also applies a torque that helps spreads that weight.
I'll reiterate: changing the hitch will not change the fact that Ford thinks that a load greater than 500 lbs on the hitch (any hitch) will make the vehicle unsafe.
You talk about keeping to the facts, this is just the facts that follow the sound physics.
The reason you have a payload over 500 pounds is that typically some of that payload will be at or in front of the rear axle, and thus spreading the weight around.
01-10-2019, 01:12 AM
#68
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Thanks for looking into that. I’m reading it as “hitches shown below” and they offer different hitches. I could be wrong though, a lot of language is vague as a lawyer needs to proof it. Even with WDH it transfers a load through the rear of the frame.
I’m pretty much leaning towards changing it and if it behaves poorly I’ll just use my 250 when needed. I’ll report back once I get the truck out of the shop in a couple weeks.
My experience has been changing the hitches on Dodges so I could hit the right weights. It worked out fine. Still surprised this isn’t done more often on the F150.
I’m pretty much leaning towards changing it and if it behaves poorly I’ll just use my 250 when needed. I’ll report back once I get the truck out of the shop in a couple weeks.
My experience has been changing the hitches on Dodges so I could hit the right weights. It worked out fine. Still surprised this isn’t done more often on the F150.
