smokeywren

It wasn't recently, but when I ordered my last Ford pickup, my dealer asked for and received "price protection" for my ordered truck. The price protection was for the price and incentives on the day we finalized the deal and ordered the truck. So I paid the same price and received the same factory incentives I would have received if I took delivery of my truck on the day I ordered it.


I knew how much check I was going to have to write before I finalized the deal. I didn't actually write that check for over two months while Ford built and delivered my F-150.


Of course, you must be dealing with a high-level manager in the Ford store. In my case I was dealing with the dealer, who was also the son of the owner. He got on the phone with his district manager and arranged for the price protection.


Since you're in the toolies, your Ford dealer is probably a small dealer. Challenge him to come up with the same price protection deal my dealer got for me back in 2011.

Foulplay

While all of these responses are correct in regards to payload and the possibility of opting for an F-250, I would choose (as a matter of fact, I did choose) the 3.55 E-lock with Max Tow. It drags my 7,000 pound travel trailer around like nobody's business.

Alberta Bound

Another dumb question ... does a high quality WDH help (by) possibly reduce tongue weight therefore bringing back "some" of the trucks lost Payload capacity ... when it redistributes the load, upon, all of the truck and trailer axles ?

TooManyVehicles

I think you need to do more research.

If the vehicle has the towing package (53A), the integrated brake controller can be easily added by the dealer. I did this on my truck before I even picked up from the dealer. I overpaid at $250 installed, as the part can be obtained for $110-$120 and the install is easy (it does require that it is activated, but a dealer will do that for $50 or so and it might even be able to be turned on using forscan).

The 3.5L EB is not the 5.0L NA. It's torque is available early on and is almost 300 lb ft at 2,000 RPM. It is much more forgiving of gearing.

Alberta Bound

Plus my clutch (standard 5spd) won't make it through the winter - already have a $1,700 quote for it. Therefore $1,100 rubber + $1,700 clutch = $2,800 "not recoverable" which could make a few payments or be a good down payment

RubyRed Canadian

The employee pricing is only on the 2016 F-150, not the 2017 model...I asked my dealer.

I just bought one and got price protection (because they had to locate a truck in Ontario that I wanted which took them about 3 weeks).

I also got them to write in the contract that if any new incentives came out before I took delivery, the bill of sale would be ripped up and a new bill of sale would be drawn up reflecting bigger and better incentives. The incentives didn't change, so what I agreed to pay on Aug 31 is what I paid on Sept 19 when I got my truck.

By the way, you can beat employee pricing....I did. Employee pricing is just another gimmick to get you in the door. The beauty of it is, employee pricing at least gets you close to where you need the numbers to be.

Boulevard

TooManyVehicle;

So you woke up this mourning and said 'I'm going to buy the wrong truck 'cause wrong is good enough for me, my family and my money'. NO.....I'm wrong. You mean you got out of bed and said 'I'm going to buy a truck that will not do the job that I want and I am going to pay extra money to get it modified so that it will do the job that I want." Am I still not right!

Honestly, you are telling people to buy the wrong vehicle and then modify it so that it looks just like the truck that they should have bought in the first place....and pay more for it because the mods are more expensive than the factory installed.

If you are saying that 3.31 is as good or better that the 3.73 than why bother with gears at all. Why not one truck one gear. You pick the gear and I will send the memo to FORD telling them about the mistake that they have made and how you plan to correct it using your 1 gear theory.

TooManyVehicles

I didn't say that at all. What I said was the Integrated Brake Controller is a simple add-on, and if you find the truck you want but it doesn't have it, no big deal. That is exactly what I did because I had done research before buying and knew that if the vehicle already had the 53A tow package that adding the 67T integrated brake controller was easy, and would be the same as if you had factory ordered the two together. It is part # GL3Z-2C006-CA (supercedes FL3Z-2C006-AB). Here's an example of the $275 factory option available for $90: (Edited to remove link to ebay as it messed up the formatting in a major way). So, you are incorrect that the mod is more expensive than with it factory ordered.

Look, if I had found the truck I wanted with it already installed, I would have gone with it as $90 plus install vs $275 as part of a factory order isn't that big of a deal. But I didn't, and more importantly was able to get my truck at over 23% off MSRP. So yeah, having the dealer to a 20 minute job to install it before I picked my truck up was worth it.

In terms of the gearing, that's a bigger question. If you reread what I wrote, I didn't say to swap the gearing. What I said was that 3.31 on the 3.5L EB isn't the same as the 3.31 on the 5.0L NA in terms of towing because of the torque curve of the 3.5L EB. The 3.31 in a 5.0L NA has a rated towing capability of 9,100# (supercab, 2015 towing guide). The 3.31 on a 3.5L EB? 10,800#. There is no comparison. Looking at the 3.55 gearing: 9200# on a 3.55 w/5.0L NA, 10,800# on the 3.55 w/3.5L EB (same as the 3.31 gearing).

So what I am saying is that if you have the 3.5L EB, having 3.31 gearing vs. 3.55 is not a big deal in terms of towing, especially if one were only occasionally doing so or wasn't going to be towing heavy. I'd pay a lot more attention to payload (which I did, the payload on my truck is 2046#).

Does this now make sense?

11screw50

Nvm, beat to the punch about the factory TBC that can easily be added.

As for payload, again, some people seem to think the payload on the '15+ trucks is as low as the previous gen and it is not even close. I saw a 400lb increase and I gained a ton of options when I traded for a truck with the same cab and drive configuration as my old one. A 400lb increase in payload is a 3000lb increase in trailer (at 13% tongue weight).

acdii

The EB with 3.19 gears tows well.