RACarvalho

Using the 2017 guide, the numbers for my configuration ( Crewcab, 6 1/2 bed, 3.73 rear axle with the HDPP) are:
Max. towing: 10800lbs
Payload: 2910lbs
This is for the 2017 version

So I think that towing a trailer up to 10000 lbs GVWR will be ok but if Ford bump that to 12000lbs would be great.

Our current TT weight is 5400lbs with a tongue weight of ~800lbs so no problem there but next year we are planing to move to a 5er with a 9900 GVWR and something around 1400lbs pin weight.
I intent to use the Andersen hitch (~40 lbs) so I don't see any problem there too....

Am I missing something?

jcb206

Yes.

It doesn't matter if it is 9k or 12k, you are limited by your max hitch rate and payload. Payload should be covered with the HDPP but your hitch will NOT be rated for a 10k GVWR bumper pull unless it is increased. . That would be 1300lbs plus your WDH on the hitch.

As as far as your payload, with few options, be happy if your payload is near 2600 lbs on a crew can 4x4.

A small Fifth Wheel might be what you are looking for. Disregard the 1400 hitch weight DRY. Most need 20-25% pin weight. I think you will be near 2,000 lbs old the truck, maybe more. Very hard to say with certainty when only using DRY weights. It might work or might not. Very expensive decision.

I will ill let some others on the forum chime in about Fifth Wheel pin weight, as I don't have experience with them.

mass-hole

1150 was for the 2014 and earlier max tow trucks. The new max tow trucks are 1220. Since the HDPP requires max tow on the 3.5 EB it will have a 1220 hitch.

mass-hole

Yes and seeing at the Equalizer hitches weight like 100 lbs by themselves you are really looking at a max trailer tongue of 1120 lbs if you are lucky.

mass-hole

If you are 4x4 then you will probably be below 2600 lbs. If you have options then you could be as low as 2300.

RACarvalho

It's a 4x2 and very few options....
The ones that are heavy are the ones that increase the payload capacity.

jcb206

Thanks. I have the 1050 hitch now. Wish the Max Tow still increased the GVWR too.

Mustanger

Well the 2018's will be rated at 13,200 towing WITH the Max tow Package!!! They will include a heavier gauge steel frame , special re-engineered steering to be able to handle the extra weight...will keep you more stable going down the freeway etc at speed. Payload was around 3600lbs i think!! This baby intrudes on F250 capabilities! There is a lot more like bigger and more coolers, a bunch of stuff I forgot already but this will be the King again

RACarvalho

Yes but not all went up.
My set up is a Screw 4x2 with a 6.5 bed (157in wheel base) with the V8 and max payload package.
While the max tow went from 10800 to 11600, the payload went from 2910 to 2890....
I really hope that the 20 lbs lost on payload is to compensate a heavier and more robust hitch....

mass-hole

Its 3270 lbs payload on a Regular cab with HD Payload Package. It only increased by like 30 lbs from last year and GVWR is exactly the same at 7850.

Its weird that the HD Payload Regular Cab gains 30 lbs of payload from last year but others lose payload