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What is your trucks payload? (Yellow sticker in drivers door say). That is where you start.
I have a yellow sticker that says occupants and cargo not to exceed 1776 lb.
Then another sticker Front GAWR 3600lb and Rear 4050 lb.
I drove across the scales today Front axle is 3500 rear is 2380 With thee people in the cab.
Drive it, looks like you have the HDPP? What was the GVWR on the white sticker? Balance your load to 11% tongue weight, with majority of the load on top of the axles. See how it handles, if it feels too light, then you will know that a WDH is required.
Drive it, looks like you have the HDPP? What was the GVWR on the white sticker? Balance your load to 11% tongue weight, with majority of the load on top of the axles. See how it handles, if it feels too light, then you will know that a WDH is required.
There are so many people out there towing trailers like yours without a WDH, some very over loaded, others set just right.
That would solve my problem! I did not know they made such an adapter. The option list shows 7050# for the GVWR What is the HDPP rated at? I dont know for sure but if I did it would be listed here wouldn't it? So I am guessing I dont have that, but I do have the Max Tow pkg.
It is not HDPP. HDPP is 7850 lb gvwr and would have well over 2000 lbs of payload and a 4800 lb RAWR
Originally Posted by Shingler
That would solve my problem! I did not know they made such an adapter. The option list shows 7050# for the GVWR What is the HDPP rated at? I dont know for sure but if I did it would be listed here wouldn't it? So I am guessing I dont have that, but I do have the Max Tow pkg.
When you set the tongue on the ball, not only does the hitch weight go on the rear axle, it transfers some weight from the front axle to the rear axle. Just take it to the scales to see how much overloaded the rear axle is.
Note that in my case, the receiver weight (hitch wt. + tongue wt.) is 860 lbs. When that weight was set on the receiver, the steer axle wt. went from 3280 to 2920, 360 lbs. lighter. The drive axle went from 2800 to 4020, 1220 lbs. heavier, with only a 860 lb. receiver wt. That 4020 lbs. is 170 lbs. more than the drive axle rating of 3850. Without the weight distribution hitch, the rear axle is overloaded. The weight distribution hitch transferred 480 lbs. off the rear axle, 320 lbs. back to the steer axle and 160 lbs. to the trailer axles. I wouldn't tow this trailer without the WDH because the drive axle would be overloaded.
The original thread has been closed. Opie, for future reference, we can move threads around to different places. Just report it and tell us what you need.
That would solve my problem! I did not know they made such an adapter. The option list shows 7050# for the GVWR What is the HDPP rated at? I dont know for sure but if I did it would be listed here wouldn't it? So I am guessing I dont have that, but I do have the Max Tow pkg.
Max Tow. Good choice. I wouldn't worry too much about it, most trailers like that I see are not using a WDH since the loads are pretty much on the axles. That is hte key to them and why you don't see a frame that supports WDH, they should be loaded with the mass over the axles. Don't load light at the front though or it will sway.
What you can do is get a bathroom scale, two foot long pieces of pipe, a patio block and two 7 foot 2 x 4's screwed together with marks every foot. Place the first foot mark on a pipe on the patio block, the tongue jack at the 2 foot mark, and the bathroom scale with the pipe centered on it at the 5 foot mark and weigh the trailer, multiply the scale by 4 to get the TW as you load the trailer. Keep it 500 or less and you wont need WDH, but just be careful not to make it tail heavy.
When you set the tongue on the ball, not only does the hitch weight go on the rear axle, it transfers some weight from the front axle to the rear axle. Just take it to the scales to see how much overloaded the rear axle is.
Note that in my case, the receiver weight (hitch wt. + tongue wt.) is 860 lbs. When that weight was set on the receiver, the steer axle wt. went from 3280 to 2920, 360 lbs. lighter. The drive axle went from 2800 to 4020, 1220 lbs. heavier, with only a 860 lb. receiver wt. That 4020 lbs. is 170 lbs. more than the drive axle rating of 3850. Without the weight distribution hitch, the rear axle is overloaded. The weight distribution hitch transferred 480 lbs. off the rear axle, 320 lbs. back to the steer axle and 160 lbs. to the trailer axles. I wouldn't tow this trailer without the WDH because the drive axle would be overloaded.
Nice spreadsheet. got all your information there. I am a numbers guy too and am trying to do this the right way. Did you make that or get it someplace?
Max Tow. Good choice. I wouldn't worry too much about it, most trailers like that I see are not using a WDH since the loads are pretty much on the axles. That is hte key to them and why you don't see a frame that supports WDH, they should be loaded with the mass over the axles. Don't load light at the front though or it will sway.
What you can do is get a bathroom scale, two foot long pieces of pipe, a patio block and two 7 foot 2 x 4's screwed together with marks every foot. Place the first foot mark on a pipe on the patio block, the tongue jack at the 2 foot mark, and the bathroom scale with the pipe centered on it at the 5 foot mark and weigh the trailer, multiply the scale by 4 to get the TW as you load the trailer. Keep it 500 or less and you wont need WDH, but just be careful not to make it tail heavy.
What I am hauling in here when I am at my max load is the wife's Harley trike up in the nose, mine and my buddy Electraglides side by side behind the trike. That puts about a foot between the two bikes and the back of the trike. Need a little room to get in there and strap everything down. I could move the trike back but it can only go inches so its not going to make that much difference. The bikes are as far back as they can go. So I am kind of stuck on the load positioning. The weight distribution adapter looks to be the ticket so I can use the WD hitch for when I got all the bikes on board. I use this to go to Daytona or occasionally Sturgis SD. Then the back side of the trailer has a pop out bed that folds to the outside of the trailer. So you can still use it while loaded. Poor mans toy hauler.
10-31-2017, 07:37 PM
Max Tow. Good choice. I wouldn't worry too much about it, most trailers like that I see are not using a WDH since the loads are pretty much on the axles. That is hte key to them and why you don't see a frame that supports WDH, they should be loaded with the mass over the axles. Don't load light at the front though or it will sway. 
