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it was one of the reason to buy the truck was the extra towing this year. But i like to go by labels and to do it right. If hitch says max is 12,200 thats all i will do, but thats kinda false advertising type deal.
one reason im not bad worried is my pay load of truck with max tow and 4x4 has truck a little heavier anyway. Still im losing 500lbs even with correct payload, like i said my truck weighs 5700 with truck and a person , minus combine 18400 manual says and im at 12,700 i can tow.... but my hitch picture shows 12,200?
this year 18s did get bigger tubing on rear frame i read somewhere and the manual even states on line/note 6 of above manual picture "heavy frame crew cabs" So if ford spent the time and money on upgrading these max tow frames this year to handle the 12700 and 13200 why is hitch labeled at 12,200
Does anyone have a ford email address to ask about these things on newer models?
I figuring all my math with no one in the truck but driver. 10% tounge weight. Using weight distribution. Why go thru trouble of beefing everything up on frame and put a under rated factory hitch? Maybe I'm missing something? advertised 12,700 on website and 18400combined in booklet.
Id like to see if label is different on hitch of the 2018 2x4 longer bed that claims to get 13,200? Or if anyone else has the maxtow on a 2018 please look at hitch and comment. Again I'm no expert rigger, just doing some math and may be missing something
Payload less prob cause 20" tires/fx4/max tow. I just thought I should have a 12700 rated hitch instead of 12,200. If they went thru all the smarts of engineering heavier frame this year, did they forget about hitch? I hoping I'm missing something.
Payload, tongue weight and tow capacity are all different things. The max tow weight is what the engine and drivetrain and frame can safely/legally pull and stop. This could be a farm/hay trailer with 4 wheels that has zero tongue weight.
Of all the ratings, including TW, GVWR, GCWV etc, you have to go by whichever hits the limit first.
Last edited by BlackBoost; 09-15-2017 at 12:09 PM.
I figuring all my math with no one in the truck but driver. 10% tounge weight. Using weight distribution. Why go thru trouble of beefing everything up on frame and put a under rated factory hitch? Maybe I'm missing something? advertised 12,700 on website and 18400combined in booklet.
Id like to see if label is different on hitch of the 2018 2x4 longer bed that claims to get 13,200? Or if anyone else has the maxtow on a 2018 please look at hitch and comment. Again I'm no expert rigger, just doing some math and may be missing something
You need to go by your rear axle rating and your payload rating. Actually, all your specified weight ratings need to be followed. If your rear GAWR is only 200 lbs more than mine and I can only pull a 5000 lb trailer....where does that leave you? Maybe a little more cargo in the truck with a 5000 lb trailer? Or, no cargo in the truck and a little heavier trailer....MAYBE 7000 lbs?
I have a GVWR of 7350 lbs rating , you have a 7000 lbs rating. Your payload rating is only 420 lbs higher than mine. But, your axles ratings are still gonna be the determining factor.
I would love for Ford to show us how we can tow the rigs we are "supposedly" able to tow but can't legally.
You need to go by your rear axle rating and your payload rating. Actually, all your specified weight ratings need to be followed. If your rear GAWR is only 200 lbs more than mine and I can only pull a 5000 lb trailer....where does that leave you? Maybe a little more cargo in the truck with a 5000 lb trailer? Or, no cargo in the truck and a little heavier trailer....MAYBE 7000 lbs?
I have a GVWR of 7350 lbs rating , you have a 7000 lbs rating. Your payload rating is only 420 lbs higher than mine. But, your axles ratings are still gonna be the determining factor.
I would love for Ford to show us how we can tow the rigs we are "supposedly" able to tow but can't legally.
Bottom line is my truck 5700lbs (truck weight). Deduct that from 18400 booklet shows combined leaves 12700 lbs towing like ford specs show online.
everything I read states weight distribution is needed after 5000lbs to reach my hitch rating of 12,200. Weight distribution levels weight on axles.
My question is Shouldn't new hitches be rated at 12,700 to match the how much you can tow in new 2018s rear framing. My 2018 hitch has a sticker staring 12200max tow rate
Bottom line is my truck 5700lbs (truck weight). Deduct that from 18400 booklet shows combined leaves 12700 lbs towing like ford specs show online.
everything I read states weight distribution is needed after 5000lbs to reach my hitch rating of 12,200. Weight distribution levels weight on axles.
My question is Shouldn't new hitches be rated at 12,700 to match the how much you can tow in new 2018s rear framing. My 2018 hitch has a sticker staring 12200max tow rate
No, like I mentioned in my last post, towing weight and tongue weight are not the same. Tongue weight along with GVWR GCWR payload etc are how much weight the truck(hitch/frame/suspension/axles/wheels) can support. Towing weight capacity is how much the engine and transmission can pull and stop safely/legally. Two very different things.
everything I read states weight distribution is needed after 5000lbs to reach my hitch rating of 12,200. Weight distribution levels weight on axles. Which new hitches should be 12,700 rated hitch
You're right. A WDH is suggested for anything over 5000 lbs. But they are not miracle workers...they will only move so much weight. Remember, using the WDH does NOT decrease or change the tongue weight. Yes, you will move some weight off the truck rear axle but adds some to the front axle and some to the trailer axles. How much is only determined by going to a scale. I don't think the weight transfer OFF the truck is significant. Well, if you over tighten the WDH ....but that would mean the rear of the truck and the front of the trailer higher than the axles which is detrimental in it's own right.
09-15-2017, 11:22 AM
