P 116t tire verses LT tire 116 Tire ????
05-18-2023, 05:40 PM
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P 116t tire verses LT tire 116 Tire ????
I have stock Michelin p275/65-18 116t tires from factory
are Michelin (or any LT tire ) LT 275/65-18 116t stiffer/stronger ??? Or the same
I want to go to load C,D for towing my travel trailer , but do not want to go the load E route as I did on my last truck , I just got back from a camping trip , stock did decent It still soft sided ,
are Michelin (or any LT tire ) LT 275/65-18 116t stiffer/stronger ??? Or the same
I want to go to load C,D for towing my travel trailer , but do not want to go the load E route as I did on my last truck , I just got back from a camping trip , stock did decent It still soft sided ,
05-18-2023, 07:56 PM
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I went from the stock P rated Michelins to Michelin LT E rated. Never had issues towing with the P tires but all the talk on forums how it was like night and day towing, well how do you say MEH?
I can't say I see a difference, but I never did have issues. It does ride a touch harsher but nothing bone shaking, MPG may have gone down a bit. Perhaps because I run them at 44 front 40 back is why I don't see much change.
Hope this helps.
I can't say I see a difference, but I never did have issues. It does ride a touch harsher but nothing bone shaking, MPG may have gone down a bit. Perhaps because I run them at 44 front 40 back is why I don't see much change.
Hope this helps.
05-18-2023, 08:53 PM
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For sure my tires can be filled to 80 however that would be greatly overinflated for the 2700lbs on the rear axle when the truck is driven around town. That's why I run them at 40 PSI and even that maybe a touch overinflated for the load.
05-18-2023, 10:01 PM
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I went from OEM Hankook 110T P tires to Cooper Discoverer AT3 123 LT-E tires and I tow a 7000lbs travel trailer. Complete overkill for my needs but there was a really good sale so I figured why not. For me there was a pretty sizeable difference in sway reduction. It didn't eliminate swaying but probably cut the magnitude in half or even a little more. On the P tires (inflated to max 47psi cold inflation) I had experienced a few sway events where the trailer started rocking and didn't seem to want to stop rocking or was settling down too slow. These required application of the ITBC to bring under control. On the LT-E tires I have never come close to repeating this event and I now drive both faster and on windier days than I used to on the P tires. Suck/blow from passing semis is also a much more muted experience. Overall I'm happy with the E tires. They did not make the unladen ride more harsh. They do eat 2-3 mpg more gas unladen and around 0.5-1 mpg towing.
05-19-2023, 07:31 AM
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I was just saying what the differences they would typically see when buying those different tires.
05-20-2023, 11:50 AM
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The P rated tires that came on your truck are rated for more weight than the truck is rated for. C rated tires in the same size are rated for LESS weight than the factory P rated tires and D rated tires are rated the same as P's. Assuming the same size.
You wouldn't gain any load capacity with C or D tires. They are a tougher tire and if I had a lightweight SUV such as a Wrangler that wasn't going to carry a load, but needed a tougher tire for off road use they are a good choice.
On a F150 I'd stay with P's or go to E's. While the P rated tires should be adequate, an E rated tire may well be better. Especially if you're hauling enough weight to be close to the max your truck is rated for.
If loaded heavy with P tires, I like to air them up to near the max printed on the sidewall. I tend to run P rated tires at a little over the number on the door, but below the number stamped on the tire unless loaded heavy. I've had both E and P rated tires and see advantages both ways. E tires are tougher and probably tow better. If you get the PSI right the ride isn't much worse than P tires.
But they are heavier, and I can feel loss of power when accelerating. But once up to speed not much difference in performance or fuel mileage. But they do cost a lot more. Cost is the primary reason I went with P rated tires last time instead of E rated tires.
If you go to E rated tires you don't need to be putting 80 PSI in them if mounted on a light duty truck. They are designed for heavy duty trucks that are heavier empty than a 1/2 ton will weigh maxed out. And unless loaded heavy even the guys running 3/4 and 1 ton trucks only run 50-60 PSI. They don't air all the way to 80 PSI unless they are near 10,000 lb gvw. I tend to use the same PSI with E and P rated tires.
And the rims on most 1/2 tons aren't designed to stay together at 80 PSI. On heavy duty trucks they are.
You wouldn't gain any load capacity with C or D tires. They are a tougher tire and if I had a lightweight SUV such as a Wrangler that wasn't going to carry a load, but needed a tougher tire for off road use they are a good choice.
On a F150 I'd stay with P's or go to E's. While the P rated tires should be adequate, an E rated tire may well be better. Especially if you're hauling enough weight to be close to the max your truck is rated for.
If loaded heavy with P tires, I like to air them up to near the max printed on the sidewall. I tend to run P rated tires at a little over the number on the door, but below the number stamped on the tire unless loaded heavy. I've had both E and P rated tires and see advantages both ways. E tires are tougher and probably tow better. If you get the PSI right the ride isn't much worse than P tires.
But they are heavier, and I can feel loss of power when accelerating. But once up to speed not much difference in performance or fuel mileage. But they do cost a lot more. Cost is the primary reason I went with P rated tires last time instead of E rated tires.
If you go to E rated tires you don't need to be putting 80 PSI in them if mounted on a light duty truck. They are designed for heavy duty trucks that are heavier empty than a 1/2 ton will weigh maxed out. And unless loaded heavy even the guys running 3/4 and 1 ton trucks only run 50-60 PSI. They don't air all the way to 80 PSI unless they are near 10,000 lb gvw. I tend to use the same PSI with E and P rated tires.
And the rims on most 1/2 tons aren't designed to stay together at 80 PSI. On heavy duty trucks they are.
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05-21-2023, 12:17 PM
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The P rated tires that came on your truck are rated for more weight than the truck is rated for. C rated tires in the same size are rated for LESS weight than the factory P rated tires and D rated tires are rated the same as P's. Assuming the same size.
You wouldn't gain any load capacity with C or D tires. They are a tougher tire and if I had a lightweight SUV such as a Wrangler that wasn't going to carry a load, but needed a tougher tire for off road use they are a good choice.
On a F150 I'd stay with P's or go to E's. While the P rated tires should be adequate, an E rated tire may well be better. Especially if you're hauling enough weight to be close to the max your truck is rated for.
If loaded heavy with P tires, I like to air them up to near the max printed on the sidewall. I tend to run P rated tires at a little over the number on the door, but below the number stamped on the tire unless loaded heavy. I've had both E and P rated tires and see advantages both ways. E tires are tougher and probably tow better. If you get the PSI right the ride isn't much worse than P tires.
But they are heavier, and I can feel loss of power when accelerating. But once up to speed not much difference in performance or fuel mileage. But they do cost a lot more. Cost is the primary reason I went with P rated tires last time instead of E rated tires.
If you go to E rated tires you don't need to be putting 80 PSI in them if mounted on a light duty truck. They are designed for heavy duty trucks that are heavier empty than a 1/2 ton will weigh maxed out. And unless loaded heavy even the guys running 3/4 and 1 ton trucks only run 50-60 PSI. They don't air all the way to 80 PSI unless they are near 10,000 lb gvw. I tend to use the same PSI with E and P rated tires.
And the rims on most 1/2 tons aren't designed to stay together at 80 PSI. On heavy duty trucks they are.
You wouldn't gain any load capacity with C or D tires. They are a tougher tire and if I had a lightweight SUV such as a Wrangler that wasn't going to carry a load, but needed a tougher tire for off road use they are a good choice.
On a F150 I'd stay with P's or go to E's. While the P rated tires should be adequate, an E rated tire may well be better. Especially if you're hauling enough weight to be close to the max your truck is rated for.
If loaded heavy with P tires, I like to air them up to near the max printed on the sidewall. I tend to run P rated tires at a little over the number on the door, but below the number stamped on the tire unless loaded heavy. I've had both E and P rated tires and see advantages both ways. E tires are tougher and probably tow better. If you get the PSI right the ride isn't much worse than P tires.
But they are heavier, and I can feel loss of power when accelerating. But once up to speed not much difference in performance or fuel mileage. But they do cost a lot more. Cost is the primary reason I went with P rated tires last time instead of E rated tires.
If you go to E rated tires you don't need to be putting 80 PSI in them if mounted on a light duty truck. They are designed for heavy duty trucks that are heavier empty than a 1/2 ton will weigh maxed out. And unless loaded heavy even the guys running 3/4 and 1 ton trucks only run 50-60 PSI. They don't air all the way to 80 PSI unless they are near 10,000 lb gvw. I tend to use the same PSI with E and P rated tires.
And the rims on most 1/2 tons aren't designed to stay together at 80 PSI. On heavy duty trucks they are.
I know my stock tires a adequate for the truck ability , I’m just looking for a stiffer side wall 116ish tire with out goi g to load E again , for towing TT
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