2018 2.7 no towing package
#1
2018 2.7 no towing package
First of all, thanks for any advice in advance. This forum is excellent all around!
I'm looking for input on a 2018 2.7 Eco, 302A, SCREW. The window sticker can be found here.
I like this truck because it's an XLT with the BLIS, but it doesn't have the "Towing Package". We plan to tow a travel trailer that has a max GVWR of 6500 lbs up to 10% of the time.
Should I be OK with this truck? I read somewhere that the 2.7s have a trans cooler already, and I'm not really interested in the backup assist.
Just want to make sure I'm getting the truck that meets my needs. Thanks again.
I'm looking for input on a 2018 2.7 Eco, 302A, SCREW. The window sticker can be found here.
I like this truck because it's an XLT with the BLIS, but it doesn't have the "Towing Package". We plan to tow a travel trailer that has a max GVWR of 6500 lbs up to 10% of the time.
Should I be OK with this truck? I read somewhere that the 2.7s have a trans cooler already, and I'm not really interested in the backup assist.
Just want to make sure I'm getting the truck that meets my needs. Thanks again.
#2
It would be nice to have 3.73 gears and the bigger differential but don’t see why it wouldn’t if it is rated to pull that.
i would work the deal up and then have them put a factory trailer brake controller in. Definitely worth it and shouldn’t be hard for them to do.
i would work the deal up and then have them put a factory trailer brake controller in. Definitely worth it and shouldn’t be hard for them to do.
#3
Senior Member
Take a look at the payload sticker on the door. Figure 12% of the 6500 GVWR of the trailer as an estimate of tongue weight (780 lbs.) plus 80 lbs. for a weight distribution hitch plus all passengers, pets and cargo in the truck. See if it fits. GVWR - weight of truck with a full tank of fuel = Payload ("The combined weight of occupants should never exceed XXXX pounds.")
Check the towing capacity of the truck. However, most half ton trucks run out of payload and exceed their GVWR before they exceed the GCWR.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/towing-guides/
The towing guide says that towing a trailer over 5,000 lbs. without a Trailer Tow Package can void the warranty. The Trailer Tow Package includes the transmission oil cooler, an engine oil cooler and an upgraded front stabilizer bar. You might talk to the truck dealer about the warranty issues with towing a 6500 lb. trailer.
Of course, you will need a trailer brake controller. The Ford Integrated Trailer Brake Controller is highly recommended.
Check the towing capacity of the truck. However, most half ton trucks run out of payload and exceed their GVWR before they exceed the GCWR.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/towing-guides/
The towing guide says that towing a trailer over 5,000 lbs. without a Trailer Tow Package can void the warranty. The Trailer Tow Package includes the transmission oil cooler, an engine oil cooler and an upgraded front stabilizer bar. You might talk to the truck dealer about the warranty issues with towing a 6500 lb. trailer.
Of course, you will need a trailer brake controller. The Ford Integrated Trailer Brake Controller is highly recommended.
Last edited by atwowheelguy; 12-30-2017 at 01:12 AM.
#4
Senior Member
Do yourself a favor, never, ever, buy a new truck without a towing package. The cost difference is not very high, and the utility of having a tow package is great.
Trying to piece together all the items included in the towing packages is a major undertaking. Its not just some wiring and a brake controller.
Look at everything included with the max towing package above. Myself, if I am buying a new truck, I'm getting the max trailer tow package. Realize talented truck sales people are highly skilled in talking you into whatever truck they have in inventory, rather than what truck is best for you!!! Don't fall it!
And as someone who has owned several trailers over the years, don't be surprised if you end up upgrading trailers, to something that naturally will be larger and heavier. Having room to spare so you don't have to buy a new truck again later is a good idea.
And if I was ordering a new truck, I'd be sure to add the factory tow mirrors as an option.
Trying to piece together all the items included in the towing packages is a major undertaking. Its not just some wiring and a brake controller.
Look at everything included with the max towing package above. Myself, if I am buying a new truck, I'm getting the max trailer tow package. Realize talented truck sales people are highly skilled in talking you into whatever truck they have in inventory, rather than what truck is best for you!!! Don't fall it!
And as someone who has owned several trailers over the years, don't be surprised if you end up upgrading trailers, to something that naturally will be larger and heavier. Having room to spare so you don't have to buy a new truck again later is a good idea.
And if I was ordering a new truck, I'd be sure to add the factory tow mirrors as an option.
Last edited by thrifty biil; 12-30-2017 at 09:27 AM.
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#5
Thanks for the advice. I missed that VERY important part of the 5,000 lb tow rating from Ford. I was going off the 7,600 max tow. I will skip this truck and only get one with the tow package!
What dealer orders an XLT with BLIS and no tow package?! Makes no sense!
Thanks again!
What dealer orders an XLT with BLIS and no tow package?! Makes no sense!
Thanks again!
#7
Thanks for the advice. I missed that VERY important part of the 5,000 lb tow rating from Ford. I was going off the 7,600 max tow. I will skip this truck and only get one with the tow package!
What dealer orders an XLT with BLIS and no tow package?! Makes no sense!
Thanks again!
What dealer orders an XLT with BLIS and no tow package?! Makes no sense!
Thanks again!
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#8
Grumpy Old Man
Stop! Take a deep breath. Don't even think about buying that F-150 for towing a TT. Find one that has at least the following options, or if your dealer cannot find the one you need, then take another deep breath and order exactly the truck you need:
→ Trailer tow mirrors
→Max tow pkg, which requires or includes:
→→ 3.5L EcoBoost engine
→→ 3.55 e-locker axle
→→ 36-gallon gas tank
→→ Auxiliary tranny cooler
→→ Integrated trailer brake controller (ITBC)
→→ Upgraded receiver hitch w/smart trailer tow connector
→→ Engine oil cooler
→→ Pro trailer backup assist
→→ Upgraded front stabilizer bar
Note that max tow no longer includes the tow mirrors, so if you want tow mirrors you must order them as a stand-alone option.
If you want XLT trim with BLIS (blind spot info system), then you have to order the 302A "luxury" trim pkg. 302A includes remote start, 10-way power seats, heated front seats, reverse sensing system, SYNC® 3 and the XLT Chrome appearance pkg. BLIS is not part of the pkg, but 302A is required before you can order BLIS.
For some reason, Ford will not build an F-150 with both trailer tow mirrors and BLIS. I would choose the tow mirrors and skip the BLIS. I have BLIS on my car, and it's not much help to a wide-awake driver.
→ Trailer tow mirrors
→Max tow pkg, which requires or includes:
→→ 3.5L EcoBoost engine
→→ 3.55 e-locker axle
→→ 36-gallon gas tank
→→ Auxiliary tranny cooler
→→ Integrated trailer brake controller (ITBC)
→→ Upgraded receiver hitch w/smart trailer tow connector
→→ Engine oil cooler
→→ Pro trailer backup assist
→→ Upgraded front stabilizer bar
Note that max tow no longer includes the tow mirrors, so if you want tow mirrors you must order them as a stand-alone option.
If you want XLT trim with BLIS (blind spot info system), then you have to order the 302A "luxury" trim pkg. 302A includes remote start, 10-way power seats, heated front seats, reverse sensing system, SYNC® 3 and the XLT Chrome appearance pkg. BLIS is not part of the pkg, but 302A is required before you can order BLIS.
For some reason, Ford will not build an F-150 with both trailer tow mirrors and BLIS. I would choose the tow mirrors and skip the BLIS. I have BLIS on my car, and it's not much help to a wide-awake driver.
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Stop!
...If you want XLT trim with BLIS (blind spot info system), then you have to order the 302A "luxury" trim pkg. 302A includes remote start, 10-way power seats, heated front seats, reverse sensing system, SYNC® 3 and the XLT Chrome appearance pkg. BLIS is not part of the pkg, but 302A is required before you can order BLIS.
For some reason, Ford will not build an F-150 with both trailer tow mirrors and BLIS. I would choose the tow mirrors and skip the BLIS. I have BLIS on my car, and it's not much help to a wide-awake driver.
...If you want XLT trim with BLIS (blind spot info system), then you have to order the 302A "luxury" trim pkg. 302A includes remote start, 10-way power seats, heated front seats, reverse sensing system, SYNC® 3 and the XLT Chrome appearance pkg. BLIS is not part of the pkg, but 302A is required before you can order BLIS.
For some reason, Ford will not build an F-150 with both trailer tow mirrors and BLIS. I would choose the tow mirrors and skip the BLIS. I have BLIS on my car, and it's not much help to a wide-awake driver.