2016 HD Payload - real capacity?
04-30-2017, 12:34 PM
#11
You wont find a Lariat with enough payload to haul that thing around safely. That 1980 pound pin weight is Superduty territory. Don't let anyone tell you that otherwise. If you are transporting it, find a rental to get it there. Maybe a 300a XLT RCLB would have the payload you need, but not a Lariat. You need at the bare minimum 2400# payload that would cover just you and the trailer, hitch, and nothing else.
http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/...e_r3_Nov12.pdf
http://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/...e_r3_Nov12.pdf
Trailer king pin load weight should be 15-25% of total loaded trailer weight. Make sure vehicle payload (reduce by option weight) will accommodate trailer king pin load weight and weight of
passengers and cargo added to towing vehicle. Addition of trailer tongue load weight and weight of passengers and cargo cannot cause vehicle weights to exceed rear GAWR or GVWR. These
ratings can be found on the vehicle Safety Compliance Certification Label.
passengers and cargo added to towing vehicle. Addition of trailer tongue load weight and weight of passengers and cargo cannot cause vehicle weights to exceed rear GAWR or GVWR. These
ratings can be found on the vehicle Safety Compliance Certification Label.
Last edited by acdii; 04-30-2017 at 12:57 PM.
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Ricktwuhk (04-30-2017)
04-30-2017, 12:41 PM
#12
martian quoted the carrying capacity of the 5th wheel specs. mostly to point out if u ever towed the 5th wheel loaded it would be way over the f150 rating, +- 12klbs. i won't hesitate to say i wouldn't tow that with my truck. but i do know the 16 may have a higher payload rating then i do. at 1980lbs pin weight it would be maxing my 2287 payload rating. i have put a 2500lb pallet in for a short 30 mile trip on several occasions. nothing like a trip from mn to sc. if u have the payload and it is just u and the gear, take it slow and steady. remember you are supposed to get home safe. also get some super springs. https://www.supersprings.com/application-guide/
04-30-2017, 01:04 PM
#13
Did a little research, not that I need to, but to confirm my suspicions.
Hitch weight for a Reese 16K is 152#, that and say 200# for the driver, and the 1980# pin weight, you are looking at 2332#. To safely tow it, you must have at the least a 2400# payload truck. Anything less and you are well, firstly, illegal, second, you are going to be over weight somewhere regardless of "safety overages" as some here would like to tell you. Acceleration will not be an issue, but stopping and handling will be.
Frankly that is a lot of weight to be moving around with an F150.
Hitch weight for a Reese 16K is 152#, that and say 200# for the driver, and the 1980# pin weight, you are looking at 2332#. To safely tow it, you must have at the least a 2400# payload truck. Anything less and you are well, firstly, illegal, second, you are going to be over weight somewhere regardless of "safety overages" as some here would like to tell you. Acceleration will not be an issue, but stopping and handling will be.
Frankly that is a lot of weight to be moving around with an F150.
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Ricktwuhk (04-30-2017)
04-30-2017, 01:48 PM
#14
Junior Member
i was in the same situation not long ago and regret listening to friends telling me it's all ok almost everyone is over weight with a 1/2ton truck towing that heavy! If i could go back i would have bought bigger truck from the start
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Ricktwuhk (04-30-2017)
05-01-2017, 02:59 PM
#16
Grumpy Old Man
I'm looking at a 2016 F-150 Lariat crew cab, 4x4, 6.5' bed, with the HD payload package and max tow. I know I''m pushing the limits of a 1/2 ton, but it appears (even though I seem to be finding conflicting information) it can handle my 5th wheel camper which has a shipping weight of 9,940 lbs and a payload weight of 1,980 lbs. thoughts?
If the F-150 has heavy duty payload package (HDPP), then it should be able to tow a 10k 5er without exceeding any of Ford's weight limits. If you promise to haul absolutely nothing in the pickup or trailer except a skinny driver, then you should be okay on that long tow down south.
Be certain all tires on the pickup and camper are pumped to the max PSI on the sidewall of the tire. Be certain the integrated trailer brake controller (ITBC) that was part of the max tow pkg is properly installed and adjusted.
And good luck.
Last edited by smokeywren; 05-01-2017 at 03:07 PM.
05-01-2017, 08:13 PM
#17
He wont find a Lariat with enough payload, XLT's yes, ,but not a Lariat.
05-01-2017, 08:33 PM
#18
Crosswinds may be a real challenge. Your truck is going to be squirmy. You will be over that payload with that trailer.
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Ricktwuhk (05-01-2017)
05-01-2017, 08:45 PM
#19
A one time thing is no problem. It's silly for these guys to say that being over your payload by 50 lbs will cause a catastrophic failure.
06-07-2017, 10:30 PM
#20
I have a 2017 157" 5.0L 4x4 XLT 301a HDPP and my payload sticker is 2,523lbs. Very few options.
If you get a Lariat it will have HUNDREDS less available payload. Maybe 2,300lbs if your lucky.
You will exceed your payload without a doubt.
Every trim level and every option added reduces the final payload amount.
Just as examples.....
Running boards around -60lbs
sliding rear window around -40lbs
spray in bed liner around -40lbs.
There is a ford fleet doc on the web that lists all of the options and how much each option weighs.
Google ford f-150 fleet ARC.
If you get a Lariat it will have HUNDREDS less available payload. Maybe 2,300lbs if your lucky.
You will exceed your payload without a doubt.
Every trim level and every option added reduces the final payload amount.
Just as examples.....
Running boards around -60lbs
sliding rear window around -40lbs
spray in bed liner around -40lbs.
There is a ford fleet doc on the web that lists all of the options and how much each option weighs.
Google ford f-150 fleet ARC.