smurfs_of_war

2500 gasser. The coils in these things are incredible actually. It's like they pulled them off a train car and stuck them in a truck. Some pretty big fivers sitting on these trucks with coils and very little sag at all- and I am just as surprised as anyone with that since the 1500's- while a great little truck- would get an inch of sag with a lawnmower in the back which is why the airbag companies are making a fortune. I changed the coils in my 1500 and it helped a ton.

mass-hole

Ram did the smart thing and put the 4 corner air suspension on the 1500 now and on the rear of the 2500. I like the idea but it doesnt help their payload out on the 1500.

smurfs_of_war

Its unfortunate that pretty much every half ton is now marketed at the mall crawler crowd.

5.0GN tow

Agreed, on the mall crowd, I was surprised how well mine does with my GN. I have not added bags or helpers, it's bone stock and does sit level when loaded but doesnt go beyond that. Mine is more basic work truck style though, no fancy extras like power seats or moonroof etc, just a rubber floor and cloth manual seats.

Jason_Larsen

I'm positive my 2.7L mall cruiser has a higher payload and tows better then any 1/2 ton from 15 years ago. Let's not forget the term half ton use to mean its rating.

smurfs_of_war

And now it means a 150/1500 series truck to me. Still a half ton truck. What I have and always will call it, just like mine now is a 3/4 ton and my neighbour has a 1 ton. It's just what we call them- it's the term I grew up with and it's stuck and won't change.

But yes, they far outperform the previous generations.

Velosprout

Disagree... One of the first F series 1/2 tons I drove was a 1964. 223 inline-six with a three speed manual column shift and no factory radio. We really worked that truck, but it had a whopping 145 HP and 206 ft-lb torque, 2-wheel drive. It only had a GVRW of 5000 pounds. If they lasted 80,000 miles we considered it exceptional. Any 2016 is a more capable, longer-lasting truck than a 1964, back when trucks were either work trucks or camper specials. F150's have a higher GVRW today than the 7400 max F250 of 1964. Not a "mall-crawler."

Jason_Larsen

But they are very nice to take to the mall

Wannafbody

Adding bags or rear swaybar will help with towing.