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Old 10-25-2015, 09:20 AM
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You cannot trust/assume that your hitch is set up correctly from a dealer. There are tons of stories out there where they haven't been.

There is a specific way to set the hitch up correctly. And a specific way to get your weights so you can set it up correctly.

Go to rv.net in the travel trailer section and the sticky up top explains it all.

I would also put a post up in rv.net but be prepared to answer a lot of questions with specific data.

Pulling to one side is very concerning to me and makes me think the TT has bent/misaligned axles.
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Originally Posted by 93Cobra#2771
You cannot trust/assume that your hitch is set up correctly from a dealer. There are tons of stories out there where they haven't been.

There is a specific way to set the hitch up correctly. And a specific way to get your weights so you can set it up correctly.

Go to rv.net in the travel trailer section and the sticky up top explains it all.

I would also put a post up in rv.net but be prepared to answer a lot of questions with specific data.

Pulling to one side is very concerning to me and makes me think the TT has bent/misaligned axles.
If something was wrong with the tt or the hitch it would show when I towed with the three other vehicles. I not only consulted with the trailer dealers but I talked with equalizer, Anderson, and keystone directly. None of which could offer any additional advice and confirmed the set up was correct. Anderson even sent new parts just to cover all bases.
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If you did not provide them

Scaled tongue weight
Weights on each axle of truck (no spring bars)
Weights on each axle of truck (spring bars engaged)
Photos of the setup

Then the ones you consulted do not know for sure all is well.

You also mentioned the armada prior to the f150 also pulled left.

I would like to see a pic of the truck and trailer from the side on level ground.

I need front and rear fender height measurements with the truck unhitched and on level ground.

Then I need the same measurements with trailer hitched and spring bars not engaged.

Then I need the same measurements with spring bar engaged.

Then we will have some true beginning data to be able to crunch some numbers.
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ok I have seen where the hitch bar is bent and thus pulls to one side. even one has less weight capacity than the other and makes the trailer sway with wind or traffic. but then there was a one off issues that was a install mistake from the hitch dealer. seems they did to hitch installs at same time and one 8000 pound bar and one 10000 pound bar got put on both trucks. you would think they would be different in looks and size?
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I do know from experience that too little weight on the front tires makes towing scary. If I remember from my TT days with an Equalizer WDH, that the front wheel well height should be about the same loaded or unloaded if the hitch is set up correctly. Have you verified that with a yard stick or tape? You can't just move the hitch from truck to truck without changing the setup for each one to include the number of washer spacers, etc. And you should have done the set up over after adding the RAS system as RAS raises the rear some.
I had my Equalizer set up verified by my dealer when I picked up my TT. On the way home, the bars came off the A-frame as I had installed the lock downs backwards. So much for experts.
Hitching a trailer adds weight to the rear and removes weight from the steering (front) axle. The main purpose of a WDH is to remove weight from the rear by pushing it to the front of the truck and to the trailer axles. If it is not set up as stated above, it will be squirrelly. The Equalizer instructions are very specific about measurements before and after hook up. It is very possible that one set up worked for the other trucks but is wrong for your truck.

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Ok for what it's worth I pull a 32 ft TT with a loaded weight around 6500 Lbs. I have a 2013 F150 XLT with the Super crew and the 6.5 ft box. The only alteration that I made to the truck is that I got rid of the SRA's that came on the truck and installed some load range "E" tires on the truck, the SRA's have a much softer sidewall which can make the rear of the truck a little squirmy. Here are my scale weights right after we picked it up before I put anything in the trailer (trailer weighed 6000 Lbs dry).

My wife and myself in the truck and 1/2 tank gas.
First trip across scale - front axle 3320, rear axle 3760, TT 5280; total 12360

Truck alone (-1 160 lb passenger) front axle 3400, rear axle 2760

2nd trip across scale with trailer and truck with my wife and I.
I went up one link on the chains.
front axle 3540, rear axle 3420, TT 5400

Right now fully loaded I scale around 13200 for the whole rig.

Based on the the weights you posted I would say you are light on the front of the truck..but the only way to know is to compare what the unloaded front axle weight of the truck is to the loaded front axle weight. With the weight distribution installed you should be returning all (or most) of the original front axle weight to the front of the truck. I like to return more and put a little extra load on it because it drives better, but thats me.

You need three weights: the truck with you,full tank of gas and the weight bars in the back; the truck and trailer without the bars connected and then everything with the bars engaged.

If the front of the truck is too light then its going to walk all over the road and the trailer is not going to be stable. Good Luck.
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Old 11-02-2015, 06:55 PM
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On the side of the drivers door or on the door piller there is a sticker which will tell you the cargo capacity for your truck.
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Just thought I would share an update since it is thanksgiving and I thought I would share what I am not thankful for which is my Ford f150. I was able to get my local Ford dealer to come on a test drive with me and they witnessed the trailer sway and also witnessed the two warnings that randomly will show up, advanced control fault and service advance trac. That was enough to reopen the case with Ford and they sent a engineer to take it for a drive. The engineer took it for a drive and confirmed the sway issues and warnings. He then hooked up the trailer to 2 other f150's and an F250 and the only one that towed without concern was the F250. The comment from the engineer was that the trailer was too big for the truck even though it fully meets the weight guidelines set by Ford. Then they said they would not get involved and that the only option was to trade it in for a 250 but I would have over $4k in negative equity that I would have to roll into the 250. They did not care or comment on the fact that the Toyota tundra and the Chevy 1500 did not sway. I am disgusted with Ford and will never even think about a Ford again. Thank goodness it's a lease, two more camping seasons and then it's over. It can't come soon enough. Not sure what to do for these next two seasons.
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.Totally forgot about posting this information. The scales were 3100 front, 3900 rear and 7400 trailer. This set up was intentional for more rear weight since it was recommended by many. Sticker shows front 3525, rear 3800, total 7000. Payload is 1728 from what I can find online. Did not see anything on the door sticker. Also I assume that the roadmaster kit improves payload so it should not be the issue.
What was your actual payload rating? How much were you over?
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Trade. $4,000K negative equity is a small price to pay for the camping security and enjoyment. Weight-wise you are in limits, but that is a long trailer. I have ordered a Heavy-Duty Payload package F150 SCrew 6.5 bed for a 5687 GVRW trailer 21 feet long because of the payload numbers and to have more truck than I need. For your trailer I would have ordered a F250 or Ram 2500. I wouldn't consider a half-ton Tundra, Chevy/GMC, Titan, or Ram 1500 for my little trailer, (because of their payload limits) and wouldn't consider them to tow yours. With 6 passengers, luggage, & toys in addition to hitch/tongue weight, payload gets used up quickly. Happy Thanksgiving, and good luck working out a trade.


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