acdii

Of course they do! It's all in the fine print, IE Disclaimers that flash so fast you can't see them, and usually says "When Properly Equipped". Now here's the thing, the truck in the picture more than likely will tow that weight just fine, but is more than likely way over it's payload, and is not the truck used for the actual tests, just used for the AD.

I tend to agree here, it's not the weight that is of concern, but the length and the weight combined that puts it above the F150 pay grade. A Superduty has more mass on the ground up front than the F150, by as much as a ton, and that adds stability where it is needed for such a long heavy trailer. The difference between an 11,000 pound flatbed and an 8500 pound travel trailer is where that mass sits. The flatbed has a lower center of gravity, where the TT has the mass higher along with the large flat sides that catch wind and acts like a huge heavy sail. That long trailer will catch the bow wave from a Semi and due to its pivot length, the distance between axles, ball socket, and rear bumper, will move much more than a shorter trailer will, and act on the second pivot point, the ball on the truck and move the nose of the truck towards the same side as the rear of the trailer, so if you are in right lane, semi passes on left, the trailer rear will move right, trailer front left, truck nose right, and the lighter the truck, the more effect it will have on it. With a heavy truck, it will have far less reaction on the ball to move the nose, therefore making a much safer and pleasant drive. A longer wheel base also helps to counter this effect.

A 5th wheel though reacts far different than a bumper pull since the front pivot point is directly over the rear axle, with the weight right on the springs, and is inherently more stable, so longer 5th wheel trailers are easier to tow. The drawback though is that the pin weights are way above most 1/2 tons payloads.

jpcampisano

I believe I'll be overweight somewhere even if its Payload but kind of stuck now!
Sounds like I should have did my homework beforehand signing paperwork and the dealer should have known better as well.
They said my only option is to Trade In and buy something Lighter or Smaller but not sure if they have something else we want...Not sure if I should even mess with weighing it or just move forward w Trade in not knowing #s

Jeff1024

If they are not offering anything but a trade I would at least weigh it on the truck and see where you are at. Who knows may be able to make it work. As others have said though 36ft of TT behind an F150 is a lot of sail to catch wind. Even if you get the weights right it could be a pretty terrible time towing it.

Either way hook it up for the pics if nothing else.

Cobra Gt

FYI, 30lb propane cylinders hold 30lbs of propane. The TW (Tare Weight / dry weight) of the tanks are typically just over 25lbs a piece for steel tanks, depending on the manufacturer. Manchester brand we sell (Ace) weigh 25.1 lbs. It's stamped on the lid along with other useful information, such as the month/year manufactured. As another note, 12 years is the limit for a place to refill them. I turn down many customers who come in to refill outdated tanks. Take them to a major propane supplier and they will recertify them for +/-$5.00 and they will be good for 5 years.

Cobra Gt

Although, the TW of the propane tanks might be included in the CT dry weight, I have no clue. If so, chalk up my comment to useless information.

Mike Up

Only on the Max Tow with 20" wheels.

Mike Up

I would definitely tell that dealer to get screwed and wouldn't give them another red cent! My dealer, while harder to negotiate with, at least was concerned with my tow vehicle before selling the much lighter and shorter trailer than yours. At the time, I had a 2010 F150 Screw 4WD 5.4L V8 . He even asked me what tow package I had before selling me my Jayco Jay Flight 26BH. Sounds like your dealer is a scam artist and I would run as far from them as possible.

acdii

If you haven't taken delivery of it yet, dont! Contact a lawyer and find out if you can get out of it due to the dealership lying to you about whether the truck can tow it. You did purchase based on that assumption correct? They did tell you the truck can tow it, correct? If the answer is yes to both, and have not taken delivery, you just might be able to get out of it.

Dealers will lie about anything to make a sale, they don't care, they have no liability if something happens once it leaves the lot.

jpcampisano

UPDATE After Scale out my truck with trailer...
see below for Cat Scale Tics and share ur thoughts...

MagneticScrew