2014 EB Towing Sloppy
#1
2014 EB Towing Sloppy
Hey I just recently bought a Rockwood Roo 23IKSS and have the WDH setup correctly, but F150 is sagging and a little bit sloppy. I know getting rid of the Pirelli P rated tires is my next step, going for BFG KO2's LT275/55/20's which should help, but is there anything I can do to stiffen the suspension. I like my truck and do not need to buy an F250/350 with PS just to tow 5500#'s
I am thinking better shocks and maybe getting a little stiffer rear springs, just want to eliminate some of the sagging, also I do not mind if the ride gets stiffer, it is a truck and I have had a bunch of these trucks.
I am thinking better shocks and maybe getting a little stiffer rear springs, just want to eliminate some of the sagging, also I do not mind if the ride gets stiffer, it is a truck and I have had a bunch of these trucks.
#2
Senior Member
If the truck is sagging the WDH is not set up properly.
I pull my 33 foot trailer, 7000 lbs on P rated tires and don't have any sag or sloppiness.
I pull my 33 foot trailer, 7000 lbs on P rated tires and don't have any sag or sloppiness.
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#3
Senior Member
I installed 4 things that helped with towing.
1. Hellwig anti sway bar - BIG bang for the buck. Excellent results (Amazon $214)
2. Hellwig helper springs - stiffens up the rear end and reduces sag quite a bit (Amazon $131)
3. Bilstein shocks - much higher quality ride than the factory shocks (Amazon $152)
4. LT tires - VERY stiff sidewalls , also firms up the ride and handling (Costco $1064)
The anti sway bar really helps handling in all conditions, so that's worth doing. It's also pretty easy to install.
You can over adjust a WDH too, and actually start bending things, like your trailer's frame. Don't go there...
1. Hellwig anti sway bar - BIG bang for the buck. Excellent results (Amazon $214)
2. Hellwig helper springs - stiffens up the rear end and reduces sag quite a bit (Amazon $131)
3. Bilstein shocks - much higher quality ride than the factory shocks (Amazon $152)
4. LT tires - VERY stiff sidewalls , also firms up the ride and handling (Costco $1064)
The anti sway bar really helps handling in all conditions, so that's worth doing. It's also pretty easy to install.
You can over adjust a WDH too, and actually start bending things, like your trailer's frame. Don't go there...
Last edited by thiggins; 06-10-2015 at 11:36 AM.
#4
Senior Member
Before you spend a bunch of money, hit the truck scales to determine if your WDH and the trailer loading is setup correctly. CAT scales cost you $20 bucks for 2 weight measurements.
#5
Grumpy Old Man
↑ ↑ ↑ What xcntrk said.
Weigh the rig twice, once with the spring bars tightened to normal, and once without the spring bars, plus you must also know the tongue weight of the wet and loaded trailer. Compute the weights distributed off the rear axle to the front axle and trailer axles. Your goal is 20% to 25% of the tongue weight removed from the rear axle and transferred to the front axle, and another 20% to 25% removed from the rear axle and transferred to the trailer axles. If your hitch is not adjusted to achieve that, then you have some more adjusting to do.
Weigh the rig twice, once with the spring bars tightened to normal, and once without the spring bars, plus you must also know the tongue weight of the wet and loaded trailer. Compute the weights distributed off the rear axle to the front axle and trailer axles. Your goal is 20% to 25% of the tongue weight removed from the rear axle and transferred to the front axle, and another 20% to 25% removed from the rear axle and transferred to the trailer axles. If your hitch is not adjusted to achieve that, then you have some more adjusting to do.
Last edited by smokeywren; 06-08-2015 at 12:03 PM.
#6
Senior Member
I have an equalizer wdh and a 233s and mine doesn't sag at all, mine has more tongue weight then yours also!
I'd look into what BCMIF150 said, what kind of wdh do you have?
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#8
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I have a Roo 21SS and it doesn't even sag my Explorer Sport Trac with the Equilizer weight distributing hitch, so it makes me suspect something isn't set up quite right with the hitch using a F150 with more payload capacity. (Sport Trac only has 1010). Revisit the set-up of the equalizer hitch and use the scales as suggested above.
Tell us about your truck, mileage, and suspension. I put new struts on the Sport Trac at 150,000 miles, and it didn't cost much more so I put on new stock coil springs at the same time. With the new springs, struts, and Goodyear Assurance TripleTred load rating 104 (1984 pound) rated tires, it does well on the highway.
Tell us about your truck, mileage, and suspension. I put new struts on the Sport Trac at 150,000 miles, and it didn't cost much more so I put on new stock coil springs at the same time. With the new springs, struts, and Goodyear Assurance TripleTred load rating 104 (1984 pound) rated tires, it does well on the highway.
Last edited by Velosprout; 06-11-2015 at 11:56 PM.
#9
I agree with others who suggest that you need to review whether your WD hitch is properly adjusted. You shouldn't be having any issues if it is properly adjusted. Don't jump to bandaid solutions until the WD is right.
#10
If you are still having issues after your WDH is set up, you may want to take a look at a set of air bags. Cheaper than springs and the ride quality would be much better.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Let me know if you have any questions.