XPerties

I posted this over in the year section but then I realized it probably would be best in here so my apologies in advance.

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So I have a 2013 5.0L with 3.55 gears with 145 wheel base. Its the lariat model with Heavy Duty Trailer Towing (Brake controller, sway bar, trans cooler etc) but it is not the Max towing package. Truck has 40k on it and from what I can tell the max towing is 7700 pounds.

Yesterday we went to a RV show and found a pioneer toy hauler model RG28 that has a dry sticker of 6352 pounds, length is 33' 4". I'd imagine after everything is put into the hauler it would be another 300-400 pounds. We've added a weight distribution hitch to the sale.

My Harley road glide is 849 wet. So If I had the bike loaded with the normal additional things inside it I would be pushing 7600 pounds. Now if a buddy comes along and we load his bagger bike on that would put us around 8500 pounds.

Multiple questions:

[1] Are my numbers correct with the truck max towing data?
[2] Should I be worried about causing damage to the truck?
[3] Any other thoughts came to mind while you were reading my post? (other than buying a new truck because the wife and I have already had that discussion but for now I'd like to explore the current situation)

Data:
Pioneer RG28 Toy Hauler 6352 pounds dry
Harley Bagger 849 wet (each)
Wife and I approx weight 450

Tom56

Others will chime in soon, but assuming a 13% TW, 7600 x 13% is 988 lbs. Then add 450 for you and spouse. You are at 1438. You are over payload before any gear added to truck.

STYLEZ24

I would think you're overweight or way too close. I believe your capacity is 8200lbs

Looks like you need to step up to a F250 if you're getting up there in weight.

Your truck will pull it... but that doesn't mean its recommended.

rsg1963

Yes, you're at the limit, but my first red flag was seeing those P rated tires. Not the way to go at all especially if your towing anything significant (which you are). At the very least, you need a set of quality LT tires on there.

Ricktwuhk

1,357 minus you and your wife and your buddy, minus any mods you made to the truck, minus anything you load in the truck, minus 75 - 125 pounds for your wdh, then divide remainder by .13 for max LOADED trailer.

Assume 450 pounds of people, nothing in truck, and 100 for the wdh. 1,357 - 550 = 807. 807 / .13 = 6,208.

So no chance in hell.

acdii

That truck has less than my 14 did @1470 pounds. With a 6300# wet trailer @11% TW, I was right on the edge with two kids. Add in 2 adults and I was 400 over.

Mine was a 14 Lariat RWD 501a, no tow package, no sunroof, just running boards that were 80 pounds, topper 160, and generator, 5 gallons gas, and tool box coming in around 110. The WDH is 80 pounds. The trailer TW was 680 with an empty FWT.

It towed it well, but to keep it legal and within specs we had to take a second vehicle for the other adults.

This is what you have to look at when you are looking for a trailer. If it is just you and the trailer, you might be able to pull it provided you have no aftermarket things installed and have an empty bed and just you.

Simnut

There are three things that you need to look at. GVWR for trailer and GVWR for the truck..and your GCVWR (Gross combined vehicle weight rating).

I have similar specs as you do except I have the 157" wheelbase. . My truck weighs 6217lbs with myself and full fuel tank but allowed a max of 7350 GVW. I'm also allowed to have a GCWR of 13,500 lbs. So, add the weight of our fully fueled truck along with my wife and I to the 6000lb (wet weight of 1500 lbs) weight of the trailer. I have a GCWR of 12500lbs.

Truck (Fueled/wife/me) - 6250 lbs GVWR
Trailer (Wet) - 6000 lbs GVWR
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12500 lbs GCVWR (Our setup)
GCVW 13500 lbs GCVWR (Ford Specs)
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-1000 lbs (to the good)

I can make this even safer by emptying all the water/grey water/ solid tanks to gain back just over 1000 lbs. I would then be 2000lbs under max GCVW. That is a ton less than the max 6 1/2 tons allowed for our truck.

If anyone sees anything wrong with this..PLEASE let me know I'm screwing up! LOL

STYLEZ24

Truck (Fueled/wife/me) - 6250 lbs GVWR
Trailer (Wet) - 6000 lbs GVWR

12250

Even better for you.

XPerties

Well I appreciate everyone's input and mathematical skills. It also allowed me to let the wife read so she didn't think I was totally BSing her to get a new truck. We started shopping for a 17 F250 since she is stuck on this toy hauler as it fits our needs perfectly.

Simnut

We husbands can be so sneaky, can't we?