mass-hole

This is the most truthful statement in the thread. Oh except for the 1300 lb part. That's a stretch. It's more like 1200, lol.

acdii

I think even you are being generous! LOL

FX4BullDog

Sadly i only have the towing package (had my dealer track down my window sticker). Doesn't say anything about max trailer package or the high payload package. I have their wolf pup, which has a tongue weight of 400lbs. So i'm golden on that. Just trying to look towards the future with my two tiny humans getting older we will eventually need more room, for a bigger toy (Side by Side).

now that 1415 pin weight. is that the maximum weight that would be there? or would that also go up as i loaded the trailer up?

smokeywren

That's a fifth-wheel toy hauler, so you want to load the trailer so you have at least 15% pin weight. So the more weight in the properly loaded trailer, the more pin weight you will have. Weigh the rig and pay attention. If you don't have at least 15% pin weight, then rearrange stuff in the trailer to achieve at least 15%.

Ignore that 1415 number for pin weight. That's only for an empty, dry trailer. With GVWR of 11,615, you'll probably load the trailer to about 10,000 pounds, which means minimum pin weight of 1,500 pounds. Your pin weight will be even more than 15% without toys in the garage area. So plan on using the CAT scales often so you don't overload your half-ton pickup.

Don't be surprised if you have to move some weight from behind the trailer axles to in front of the axles to achieve a minimum of 15% pin weight.

So you want at least 15% pin weight and don't overload your F-150 over the GVWR and payload capacity. That's a tightrope that will be a challenge to maintain with a 10k toy hauler,

With a wet and loaded trailer loaded with your toys, stop at a truck stop that has a certified automated truck scale, fill up with gas, then weigh the wet and loaded rig. Add the weights on the front and rear axles to get GVW, then compare GVW to the GVWR of the F-150. If GVW exceeds GVWR, you're overloaded,

How do you determine your real-world pin weight? Weigh the rig as above to get GVW with the trailer tied on. Then drop the trailer in the parking lot and weigh just the wet and loaded truck with everybody and everything that was in the truck when the trailer was tied on. Add the weights on the front and rear axles to get GVW without the trailer. Subtract the GVW without the trailer from the GVW with the trailer to get pin weight.

Add the pin weight to the weight on the trailer axles to get GVW of the trailer.

Divide the pin weight by the GVW of the trailer to get % of pin weight. Less than 15% is not safe. More than 15% eats up the payload capacity of your tow vehicle.

Double check: Then use the scale ticket to get the gross combined weight of truck an trailer. Subtract the GVW of the truck without the trailer from the gross combined weight of truck and trailer. That should give you about the same GVW of the trailer as adding pin weight to trailer axle weight.