Ripped Up and Rolled On V2
#21
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I contacted Chris Heideman @ Heideman Racing Dynamics in Houston, TX who is a remote tuning dealer for Palm Beach Dyno
https://www.houstonperformance.com/
I talked with Chris about setting up a time to do the tuning and explained that I was looking for a 93 tune and a 2nd fuel E85 tune.
Chris talked with Rob Shoemaker at PDB about my set up and mods, PDB said I would need a BoostaPump or return style fuel system in order to run e85 and the 3.625 pulley.
I requested that PBD use the Whipple tune as their base file that I had unlocked by HPtuners with my MPVI2 but also wanted a HPtuners ngauge for flashing between tunes without having to have my laptop with me.
Using the Whipple tune unlocked by HPtuners was my single biggest concern as I have run a custom tune on my truck using a stock file (standard in the tuning world) and when the boost comes at low throttle position, it is very unnerving.
(imagine going up an overpass and with no change in your foot on the accelerator pedal, the truck starts going from 0psi of boost to 10psi, off and on, off and on. IT Sucks...)
This doesnt happen with the Whipple tune because it is a Ford Racing Calibration with custom "Bypass Valve Logic" to control how the bypass valve closes bring boost on without the light switch feel of 500+ ft of tq when your foot is asking for 150ft tq.
Chris Installed the VMP BoostAPump and handled the tuning of the truck.
I dropped it off on 3-19-19 and the base tune was finished the next day.
Link to Palm Beach Dyno: http://www.pbdyno.com/
https://www.houstonperformance.com/
I talked with Chris about setting up a time to do the tuning and explained that I was looking for a 93 tune and a 2nd fuel E85 tune.
Chris talked with Rob Shoemaker at PDB about my set up and mods, PDB said I would need a BoostaPump or return style fuel system in order to run e85 and the 3.625 pulley.
I requested that PBD use the Whipple tune as their base file that I had unlocked by HPtuners with my MPVI2 but also wanted a HPtuners ngauge for flashing between tunes without having to have my laptop with me.
Using the Whipple tune unlocked by HPtuners was my single biggest concern as I have run a custom tune on my truck using a stock file (standard in the tuning world) and when the boost comes at low throttle position, it is very unnerving.
(imagine going up an overpass and with no change in your foot on the accelerator pedal, the truck starts going from 0psi of boost to 10psi, off and on, off and on. IT Sucks...)
This doesnt happen with the Whipple tune because it is a Ford Racing Calibration with custom "Bypass Valve Logic" to control how the bypass valve closes bring boost on without the light switch feel of 500+ ft of tq when your foot is asking for 150ft tq.
Chris Installed the VMP BoostAPump and handled the tuning of the truck.
I dropped it off on 3-19-19 and the base tune was finished the next day.
Link to Palm Beach Dyno: http://www.pbdyno.com/
They ended up making about 10 pulls between the 93 octane and e85 tunes.
Max timing on the 93 octane tune was 16.5 degrees and max timing on the e85 tune was 17.5 degrees.
And to make matters worse Chris is used to mustangs with the 10r80 and made all the pulls in 7ths gear (7th is great for showing true numbers - lower gears will read lower).
The problem with that is my truck with 3.31 gears and factory platinum 20's hits the speed limit or 184mph right at 6600rpm in 7th.
184mph cant be good for the truck or the tires right?
So the combo of only pulling to 6600rpm and timing being limited was a real kick in the nuts.
The PBD tune makes more power at a lower rpm then the Whipple but really shines with the added torque.
Because I left the truck for the BAP install and tuning I don't have any dyno videos of these pulls just, the dyno chart.
While these numbers are much higher then the Whipple tune I was a little disappointed that he didn't run the truck in 5th gear and pull it to 7000 or 7500rpm...
Final numbers that day were 606rwhp and 560rwtq on 93 octane and 637rwhp and 584rwtq on e85.
Low timing and low rpm ruined my day despite making great power
Last edited by TX-Ripper; 04-11-2019 at 04:14 PM.
#22
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Here is Stock: pulled in 5th gear, Whipple stage 2: Whipple tune pulled in 5th gear, and All current mods with Palm Beach Dyno Custom tune pulled in 7th gear.
Last edited by TX-Ripper; 04-11-2019 at 04:51 PM.
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On a positive note: The truck runs and drives great.
Part throttle shifting and firmness was perfect with no revisions needed.
Part throttle shifting and firmness was perfect with no revisions needed.
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Very impressive results (even with the minor hiccups).
Any plan to take it to the track to see how big of a difference the tune made?
I'm guessing mid to low 11's is very attainable.
Would be cool to compare timeslips along with your dyno graphs for us to follow along your journey.
Any plan to take it to the track to see how big of a difference the tune made?
I'm guessing mid to low 11's is very attainable.
Would be cool to compare timeslips along with your dyno graphs for us to follow along your journey.
#29
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On a side note, are you on the stock driveshaft?
That was one of my main concerns on the dyno spinning 130+ mph. Not really sure where the limit is on these.
That was one of my main concerns on the dyno spinning 130+ mph. Not really sure where the limit is on these.
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Beautiful truck!