qwikcobra

I would prefer a flash tool, although he seemed confident it would not work on a 2017 for some reason here is the coorespondance below. I don't want to call the guy out as he may very well be right. And he was very responsive to my inquiries. Pretty easy to see what my concerns were given his answers below.


1) No issues on the 2017 or the 15-16. Only thing is the flare tool for the calibration is not included or used on the 2017 model year. The factory PCM will have to be sent in to Whipple for the calibration to be loaded.
2) Advantages of ordering direct is you can work directly with Whipple. Status updates, install support, tech support. If you order through a dealer, you will have to go through the dealer for this.
3) The standard pulley that is included with the kit is a 3.75”. That is the size that we calibrate the PCM for. Any changed to this will require custom tuning.
4) The oil separator is a good idea. We do not offer one (used to but it didn’t work) but adding one is a good idea.

CVG323

so hows the system thus far?
i'm looking into doing this to my truck

jmeo

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Well its possible there is a change for 2017 but I hadn't heard of any and it surprises me to think so but what the hell do I know lol.

jmeo

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Still enjoying the hell out of it, every day, all day. It amazes me sometimes when I think about how much power Im putting down for a simple bolt on setup and just flawless drivability.

engineermike

My understanding was that the 2015-16's were being upgraded to the 2017 OS, so I would imagine the 2017 wouldn't be a problem.

Same here. And with reading the forums it sure seems like my truck is more reliable than all the stock ones out there. I am truly amazed by the lack of engine failures that are being reported, even at 12-13 psi on stock internals and pump gas.

engineermike

Folks, we've discussed oil briefly before, but I'm looking at it once again. I'm running pennzoil ultra platinum 5w30 because a) the gtl base oil is superior to other group 3 synthetics and 2) the higher hot viscosity will help protect the hard parts under the increased stress of the supercharger. However, more recently, I started learning about the acea standards. The ultra platinum is acea a1/b1 and a5/b5, which are fuel economy and cat converter protection specs. The acea a3/b4 is more of a high performance protection spec, economy and cat protection be-d@mned. A little looking found pennzoil platinum euro 5w40 meets the a3/b4 spec and also very stringent Porsche and BMW performance specs. I'm thinking about switching to it when I run out of ultra 5w30. It's also api sn, which is pretty standard for American cars. Coincidentally, the euro 5w40 meets all the requirements for my Pwc and atv.

And about viscosity....it recently occurred to me that most engines, not covered by cafe, require a 40 weight oil. Most water cooled sport bikes, pwc's, atv's, and diesels spec a 40 weight. Also Dodge srt (including hellcat) specs a 40 wt and all mustang special editions spec a 50 wt. I saw a dyno test years ago that showed a 40 weight made the most power in a small block chevy. It seems to me that for power and longevity, a 40 weight is best in an internal combustion engine.

JSEDECKER

I have been running Mobil 1 0w40 in mine since day 1. The OEM 20W oils are strictly for fuel economy and nothing else....... A 30W is better for our application, however with 700+ crank horsepower a 40W as is specced for multiple high horsepower/high performance engines is very fitting (The Pennzoil you are mentioning is one of those oils as is the Mobil 1 0W40). I never even considered anything else to be honest.

engineermike

That good info. I didn't want to be the first to try it . The Mobil 1 0w40 is European car formula correct? If so, it passes the same acea a3/b4 I mentioned earlier, as well as the Porsche a40 spec. It looks very similar to the pennzoil platinum euro 5w40 specs.

jmeo

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I concur the 40W but wouldn't we be better served using 5w over 0w for cold/start up protection? Ive been using Quaker State Ultimate Durability Synthetic which I believe meets the same ratings as the two oils you guys mentioned. So do you guys think 5w-40 or O-40 is the one we should use? What ever the oil I will want to use it in my 900 crank hp mustang as well.

JSEDECKER

The first number in an engine oil's viscosity rating refers to cold weather pump-ability....... The W stands for winter. The number that refers to viscosity at operating temperature is the bigger number. A 0W40 and 5W40 have the same viscosity rating at operating temperature but the 0 will flow/pump better than the 5 at cold temperatures. The Mobil 0W40 is factory fill for Mercedes AMG cars, Porsches and is an extremely robust oil.

P.S.: The Dodge SRT products including the hellcat's spec a 0W40 factory fill.