Budget by-pass oil filter system
05-26-2011, 02:13 PM
#11
HouTxEngr
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djquick1 - That works too.
I couldn't justify $300-400. for the same set-up I put together for $168.
I spent the cost difference on other things for the truck...
Report on how this set-up has been working:
- 7K driven on the truck since I installed the by-pass filter set-up.
- The oil looks like new. Typically the oil is black by this many miles.
- I cleaned the reuseable oil filter, filled it with 1 qt. of new Super Tech 5W-30
synthetic oil, and re-installed it.
I couldn't justify $300-400. for the same set-up I put together for $168.
I spent the cost difference on other things for the truck...
Report on how this set-up has been working:
- 7K driven on the truck since I installed the by-pass filter set-up.
- The oil looks like new. Typically the oil is black by this many miles.
- I cleaned the reuseable oil filter, filled it with 1 qt. of new Super Tech 5W-30
synthetic oil, and re-installed it.
07-10-2011, 11:59 PM
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The instructions for installing this were included in the dual oil filter remote location kit, except for the nipple modification.
The nipple modification consists of:
- tapping the ID of one of the supplied nipples with a 1/2-20
- take a 1/2-20 steel bolt and thread ~1/2" of it into the nipple
- saw off the part of the bolt sticking out of the nipple
- cut a groove across the face of the bolt sticking out of the nipple
- drill a 1/16" hole through the center of the bolt
- using a blade screwdriver, turn the bolt until it is just below the lip of the nipple
- tig the bolt piece in place (carefully)
- this is the nipple that you will install the by-pass filter onto.
The idea behind the modification is to reduce the flow of oil to 1/8 of the total flow. The slower flowing by-pass filter will capture the smaller particles that cause oil to become "dirty". You still have to service the full-flow filter per manufactures recommended intervals, but that is all you'll need to change (or clean). The by-pass filter change interval will be determined on how you drive and the enviornment you drive in. My city driving will likely require I change the by-pass filter 25-30K miles. The oil analysis reports should help me with when to change the oil.
This set-up cost me $165. (included additional items: reuseable full flow filter; Fumoto F-106N oil pan drain valve; 22"L x 3"W x 3/8" filter assembly mounting bracket; red wire loom)
Figure on taking a Saturday afternoon to do this install.
The nipple modification consists of:
- tapping the ID of one of the supplied nipples with a 1/2-20
- take a 1/2-20 steel bolt and thread ~1/2" of it into the nipple
- saw off the part of the bolt sticking out of the nipple
- cut a groove across the face of the bolt sticking out of the nipple
- drill a 1/16" hole through the center of the bolt
- using a blade screwdriver, turn the bolt until it is just below the lip of the nipple
- tig the bolt piece in place (carefully)
- this is the nipple that you will install the by-pass filter onto.
The idea behind the modification is to reduce the flow of oil to 1/8 of the total flow. The slower flowing by-pass filter will capture the smaller particles that cause oil to become "dirty". You still have to service the full-flow filter per manufactures recommended intervals, but that is all you'll need to change (or clean). The by-pass filter change interval will be determined on how you drive and the enviornment you drive in. My city driving will likely require I change the by-pass filter 25-30K miles. The oil analysis reports should help me with when to change the oil.
This set-up cost me $165. (included additional items: reuseable full flow filter; Fumoto F-106N oil pan drain valve; 22"L x 3"W x 3/8" filter assembly mounting bracket; red wire loom)
Figure on taking a Saturday afternoon to do this install.
07-27-2011, 11:09 AM
#13
HouTxEngr
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F150 Again - The idea of useing a 3/4" bolt will work. Welding was just an easy route for my use of the supplied nipple.
fyi - 10,500 miles on the new truck and the oil looks like the day I put it in. I've cleaned the full-flow filter once now, not much to report as far as visual metalic particles.
The wife and I agree - this is the best riding vehicle we've ever owned. Mileage is 18 in town and 22.5 on the freeway.
fyi - 10,500 miles on the new truck and the oil looks like the day I put it in. I've cleaned the full-flow filter once now, not much to report as far as visual metalic particles.
The wife and I agree - this is the best riding vehicle we've ever owned. Mileage is 18 in town and 22.5 on the freeway.
07-30-2011, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by HouTxEngr
djquick1 - That works too.
I couldn't justify $300-400. for the same set-up I put together for $168.
I spent the cost difference on other things for the truck...
Report on how this set-up has been working:
- 7K driven on the truck since I installed the by-pass filter set-up.
- The oil looks like new. Typically the oil is black by this many miles.
- I cleaned the reuseable oil filter, filled it with 1 qt. of new Super Tech 5W-30
synthetic oil, and re-installed it.
I couldn't justify $300-400. for the same set-up I put together for $168.
I spent the cost difference on other things for the truck...
Report on how this set-up has been working:
- 7K driven on the truck since I installed the by-pass filter set-up.
- The oil looks like new. Typically the oil is black by this many miles.
- I cleaned the reuseable oil filter, filled it with 1 qt. of new Super Tech 5W-30
synthetic oil, and re-installed it.
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08-01-2011, 12:21 PM
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HouTxEngr
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Mileage to date: 10,850
Maintenance done to date:
- Changed to the by-pass system @ ~3,000 miles (replaced OEM oil w\Super Tech synthetic 5W-30)
- Cleaned full-flow filter @ ~10,000 miles (filled w\1 qt. new Super Tech)
Inspection of the dip stick indicates the oil still looks like new. Next time I clean the full-flow filter (~15,000 miles), I'll take an analysis sample @ the oil pan valve.
I'll post the analysis report here.
fyi - It might be next year before we get to this mileage.
Maintenance done to date:
- Changed to the by-pass system @ ~3,000 miles (replaced OEM oil w\Super Tech synthetic 5W-30)
- Cleaned full-flow filter @ ~10,000 miles (filled w\1 qt. new Super Tech)
Inspection of the dip stick indicates the oil still looks like new. Next time I clean the full-flow filter (~15,000 miles), I'll take an analysis sample @ the oil pan valve.
I'll post the analysis report here.
fyi - It might be next year before we get to this mileage.
Last edited by HouTxEngr; 08-01-2011 at 12:28 PM. Reason: oops...forgot the "n"
09-06-2011, 08:56 AM
#16
Great idea but with a brand new truck and the amount of mileage you have on it, visual inspections of the oils "condition" are very inconclusive... Todays synthetics can run 10k miles on a standard filtration system and still look like new.
Still a good idea and saves some cash!
Still a good idea and saves some cash!
09-06-2011, 04:15 PM
#17
my friend owns 2 big rigs and they've had by-pass filters on for 2 years.
1 of the truck is currently at 130,000km on the same oil with this setup! its amazing how good it works!!
1 of the truck is currently at 130,000km on the same oil with this setup! its amazing how good it works!!
09-06-2011, 07:05 PM
#18
How long of OCI are you going to run? It's not so much the filtration but the reduction of additive packs in oils that determine life. Are you getting an oil analysis done at changes to check TBN?
09-17-2011, 06:12 PM
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HouTxEngr
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Well, here's some bad news. At 11,500 miles the oil still looked like new, but the engine suddenly developed this dieseling sound when pulling up and stopping at a traffic light.
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Took it into Ford dealership and they actually tried to tell me the by-pass filter set-up was starving the upper parts of the engine (ie. valve train). Seems the bearing were shot on both valve train sides. After further investigation, they dicovered that there was too much front-to-back play in the crankshaft, allowing for oil to by-pass going up the oil journals that feed oil to the valve train.
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Solution: Ford replaced my NEW engine with a remanufacured engine. It's running "like new", but they told me not to put the by-pass filter set-up on again...Ford would not give me another engine.
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Took it into Ford dealership and they actually tried to tell me the by-pass filter set-up was starving the upper parts of the engine (ie. valve train). Seems the bearing were shot on both valve train sides. After further investigation, they dicovered that there was too much front-to-back play in the crankshaft, allowing for oil to by-pass going up the oil journals that feed oil to the valve train.
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Solution: Ford replaced my NEW engine with a remanufacured engine. It's running "like new", but they told me not to put the by-pass filter set-up on again...Ford would not give me another engine.
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09-18-2011, 09:47 PM
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We all expect any dealership to find evidence to prove it was the owner's fault the part or parts failed. They probably had a good enough reason to deny the claim this time.
I'm impressed Ford took it on the chin like they did.
I'm impressed Ford took it on the chin like they did.