Eco-BEAST 28

Just like you would normally, push the button once, then push it again until the advance trac window pops up and then GO! The light will never go off unless you turn it back on. Now you can make some great turns above 35mph and let 'er break loose, on a closed road or approved track of course

fooseF150

oh ok ya I hold the button for 5 sec every time I start my truck to shut the "advance trac" off, kinda a habit now. lol but it will still come on when I take off from a start to quick. makes it seem like I don't know how to drive. lol

Eco-BEAST 28

So it will turn the advance trac and trac back on from a quick start? I have never had that happen and most of the time i only turn it off when i know im about to do a take off. Now im really curious about this...

gDMJoe

Year and engine macht nichts. It functions and is controlled the same.

Again (as per the owner's manual chart and as noted previously) ...
-IF- you were correct, then in my ¼mile lap experience(s) there would be no going-into-2nd-gear tire spin .... And this t'ain't true. The following light stays-on thru and after the traps (in excess of 90MPH ... which last I knew was > 35MPH) ...
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Eco-BEAST 28

Little confused by your rhetoric but basically out of the factory our trucks have the ability to keep the TCS off but its the ESC and RSC we are looking to get rid of to allow it to let loose a little more?

BadNivFX42013

Yah I'm pretty confused myself now. I just wanna know if I can turn all that crap off. I live in Alberta it's snow covered roads 9 months a year and not being able to break the back end of the truck loose without that power cut off is driving me crazy.

Tatunka

Traction Control (TCS) has nothing to do with breaking the rear loose, it actually would make it easier to break loose.

Electronic Stability Control (ESC), and Roll Stability Control (RSC) are the same thing. They all limit the amount of diversion of the vehicle from its intended course.

My point is if you really want to be able to drift, program the truck to keep the traction (TCS) on or if you have one, keep the locker locked and keep the RSC, ESC off.

ktexas04

I'm in for an answer here. I'm off road everyday for work, and I would like to be able to eliminate any kind of traction control/assistance completely at my discretion. I am about to order a tune of some kind and this is something I thought for sure I would be able to eliminate after a tune. I had pretty much decided on a LMS tune, but if they can't eliminate all the traction B.S. maybe I should look into other tuners?

Eco-BEAST 28

THIS i can understand, thank you. So this is the driving force behind everyone wanting to have raptor lockers on their non raptor? Because they can lock the rear in 2wd and we can only do it in 4x4 high?


I also thought I read this in the Livernois tune thread before i bought mine. Now I’m delving into a topic I’m not very tech savvy on so I’m going to go over and pop that question up on that thread and see what kind of info we can get from Rick. Maybe his tunes don’t do anything with the Trac system because judging by that service manual photo they don’t need to but it could of been that it does just what Tatunka mentioned by keeping the TCS on and RCS/ECS off. Ill post back when I get a reply.

gDMJoe

Mis-Information. It has everything "to do with breaking the rear (and front) loose".

It signals the ABS to control wheel spin. *Unless turned off.

In case you don't believe me - excerpted from the owner's manual ...


For more listening enjoyment and reading pleasure consult ...

• Wikipedia
• HowStuffWorks
  etc., etc., etc..

Not according to FoMoCo ...

ESC detects loss of steering control, it automatically applies the brakes to help "steer" the vehicle where the driver intends to go.

RSC utilizes a gyroscopic sensor to help monitor vehicle roll motion approximately 150 times per second. If it detects the possibility of a rollover, the system automatically engages to help keep all four wheels safely on the ground.

BTW ... RSC was added to AdvanceTrac (launched in 2000)
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