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Old 02-17-2014, 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Joewee3.5
Dickfish, you saying setx ran a first revision t4 tune? No raised boost or changes at all? Eco said setx had his SSI tune tweaked for torco or some additive. Doesn't sound like a t4 that wasn't messed with. Nobody else running t4 or t5 has trapped what setx has. Once again, doesn't sound like an untouched t4. I don't know the guy for nothing but if you're saying he wants to be known then why would he want an untampered t4? Just wondering.
Actually wrong, trey mph 104 on two wheel drive as well. Trey is almost all stock on the stock 20s. Surprisingly on t4 as well, ran the same 13.28 being that nearly stock truck.

The two wheel and four wheel drives are nearly 700 pounds different with everything else the same, that's where the mph comes from.
Old 02-17-2014, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by disturbed3003
And I thought the op said he tried contacting ssi for revisions but could not get a call back. So if that's the case, he tried to get both tweaked but could not.
It appears he was kicked to the curb by SSI as he was giving MPT his SSI tuned data logs. Basically like sharing cokes formula is what I guess you could equate it too. He can't get SSI revisions or tunes anymore because of basically being a traitor. Again that is what I have gathered from reading.

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Originally Posted by Raven78
It appears he was kicked to the curb by SSI as he was giving MPT his SSI tuned data logs. Basically like sharing cokes formula is what I guess you could equate it too. He can't get SSI revisions or tunes anymore because of basically being a traitor. Again that is what I have gathered from reading.

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appears, yes... true story, no.... I was actually "kicked to the curb" for giving MPT a shot after then I was accused of sending data logs of a tune I didn't even have, then it dropped down after i made that point to the tune I actually had... He has "fired" me and several others for voicing our opinions he didn't like between one or several of his drunken chop everyone's head off rants.... notice how my side wasn't posted? It was deleted then when the PMs started flooding in asking, I got the ban hammer.... several guys already know the entire true story from both sides but I'm not mentioning any names so they don't get their heads chopped off too...... yes I'm a "traitor" for trying another companies tunes and saying I liked them Better.
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Originally Posted by Raven78
It appears he was kicked to the curb by SSI as he was giving MPT his SSI tuned data logs. Basically like sharing cokes formula is what I guess you could equate it too. He can't get SSI revisions or tunes anymore because of basically being a traitor. Again that is what I have gathered from reading.

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Even if he did share datalogs, they aren't near enough to replicate a tune.
SSI was raving about how his was better than MPT on his site (because initially they were) until MPT started making some serious revisions then like every time things aren't going shawns way he through a fit.

Just give him a day or two to produce the time slips.
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Originally Posted by CoreyMS
Actually wrong, trey mph 104 on two wheel drive as well. Trey is almost all stock on the stock 20s. Surprisingly on t4 as well, ran the same 13.28 being that nearly stock truck.

The two wheel and four wheel drives are nearly 700 pounds different with everything else the same, that's where the mph comes from.
very true statement. But if you compare/weight to power numbers such as if I had Corey exact setup and tune minus the 700lbs for my 2wd, ideally that would put me in the 12.40 range.... However in doing the same with MPT meth 12.80 pass, factoring in similar weight properties between the bed cover and heavy 20 and other possible options.. minus the .1 that i bettered, that would put me right in the similar 12.30 range.

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Originally Posted by Raven78
It appears he was kicked to the curb by SSI as he was giving MPT his SSI tuned data logs. Basically like sharing cokes formula is what I guess you could equate it too. He can't get SSI revisions or tunes anymore because of basically being a traitor. Again that is what I have gathered from reading.

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Socal/SSI received LMS logs before any of the T tunes. Supposedly you can't get tune info from logs. Any SSI guys remember saying that? Corey do you recall accusing me of sending Socal logs to LMS? You and Shawn both contacted me about it. It's hypocritical. Send me your logs but don't send mine. One good thing comes off all the fighting/competition...better and faster tunes. Good job.
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Originally Posted by mechanicboy

Even if he did share datalogs, they aren't near enough to replicate a tune.
SSI was raving about how his was better than MPT on his site (because initially they were) until MPT started making some serious revisions then like every time things aren't going shawns way he through a fit.

Just give him a day or two to produce the time slips.
It still don't seem like MPT tunes are better. The comparison sucks IMO. I have an SCT from my brother who got rid of his truck. So no LMS when it comes time to tune. So I'm looking at these two. But I also know it takes time for the ECU to learn new tunes and shift strategies with the tranny. So swapping tunes at the track don't give you enough time for a vehicle to learn that new tune. That's another observation which makes the comparison wack!
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Oh and this T4 is old tune right? T5 is out for SSI? So this new MPT tune is maybe on par with an old tune? Yes or No?
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T5 HAS NOT been proven to be faster other than word of mouth. Ecofx tested this and his comparison was deleted over there for that reason. It wasn't on paper to be faster... they are dang close either way, but with all the clear BS that accompanies SSI woth everyone knowing and seeing, that I did a good job avoiding for so long, I'm sticking with MPT and recommend them over simply because of that and the professionalism that accompanies them.

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