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Timing chain rattling, is there a permanent fix now?

Old 09-13-2017, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Eco_2011
...I keep finding posts about people doing some TSB and then the issue returns right away afterwards.

Does whatever fix Ford have for this issue actually fix it permanently now?

Am I going to hurt the engine by driving? Possibly been having timing chain issue for a little bit but I've been remote starting all summer.
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Yeah I started reading that earlier and it was bunch of people with the issue reoccurring.
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TSB is 16-0027 which calls for the replacement of the chain and the 4 phasers. .
I would think ESP would cover it, though many dealers make it a hassle if it isn't consistantly reproducible.

There were a series of TSB fixes for this problem before 16-0027 that didn't replace all the parts that 16-0027 does. I think it was primarily folks who had these earlier TSB's performed that had problems with recurrence.

I had 16-0027 done on my truck just before it went out of extended warranty, no problem with re-occurance.

PS, even with the need for the TSB, absolutely love the EcoBoost. Wouldn't even consider trading it for a 5.0!

As for driving it with the start up rattle, I seem to recall that there are a few folks that have been driving there truck out of warranty for many, many miles without any additional issues.

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Old 09-13-2017, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by pfbz
I had 16-0027 done on my truck just before it went out of extended warranty, no problem with re-occurance.

PS, even with the need for the TSB, absolutely love the EcoBoost. Wouldn't even consider trading it for a 5.0!
Have you run a lot of miles since then?

I agree I'm very happy with my truck. I thought the camshaft breaking would be my only issue with timing. Haven't had time to check my paperwork yet to compare part numbers to the new tsb.
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Well I've not heard a thing but smooth starts all week.

Monday morning and evening and Tuesday morning then nothing but quiet. It was really loud on Monday.

I'll admit I don't know a lot about the internals of an engine but does it take time for it to adjust to chain stretch? Like it was little loose then adjusted so it's tight again and I'm not hearing it?
Old 09-15-2017, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Eco_2011
Well I've not heard a thing but smooth starts all week.

Monday morning and evening and Tuesday morning then nothing but quiet. It was really loud on Monday.

I'll admit I don't know a lot about the internals of an engine but does it take time for it to adjust to chain stretch? Like it was little loose then adjusted so it's tight again and I'm not hearing it?
Mine would come and go, possibly tied to the phase of the moon or something. Some weeks nearly every day, some weeks not at all, some weeks once or twice. Here is a video I made of all the different flavors from a few seconds (the first one) to barely noticeable. My dealer had it for a few days claiming it was not doing it at all. I went up there to start it with them. When I finally got the dealership to hear it in person, it was one of the one second or less ones, but they relented and fixed it.

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Is this an issue more with the 11-12 EB's or do I need to be concerned about 14's also that's the year I'm looking at possibly getting into.
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I've had it happen again this week after work. Only when the truck is parked uphill 1-2 degrees.
Annoying.
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Originally Posted by Olotti76
Is this an issue more with the 11-12 EB's or do I need to be concerned about 14's also that's the year I'm looking at possibly getting into.

The TSB covers 11-15.
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Originally Posted by Joe F
The TSB covers 11-15.
Ok thanks.
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Originally Posted by Joe F
The TSB covers 11-15.
So if I purchased a 2014 whether it's making the noise or not can I take it in and have all the required parts changed out under the tsb and power train warranty so I don't have to pay out of pocket for it.
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Originally Posted by Olotti76
So if I purchased a 2014 whether it's making the noise or not can I take it in and have all the required parts changed out under the tsb and power train warranty so I don't have to pay out of pocket for it.
It has to actually have the problem for them to do the work. As noted throughout this thread, some have managed to get it done with video evidence. Others like me had the videos disregarded and it had to be heard in person at the dealership.

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