OddBall

Right but my point still stands. Not beating a dead horse here but I'm in this for $2500+ for the full warranty/maint package and I will easily recoup the maint portion of the cost and then some.

I'm past the point in my life where I feel like doing constant maintenance myself and having owned a few dozen cars in my time I've been down the "you put aftermarket wiper blades on it, ergo the transmission is not covered" crap.

Personally, i'd love to stick the 87 tune on it to pick up a few more HP and firm up the shifts. If a definitive fix is found and the ECM is updated maybe I will do it some day but not right now. I'm too busy enjoying how quiet it is.

Merry ho ho

zach92r

Ford is amusing saying any mods will void your warranty and cause damage, well here is a bit of info for anyone who says mods cause damage. In addition to owning a EB f150 i own a ford focus and there are litterly 100s of guys out there that have well over 300whp out of them this includes the 2.0 zetec and 2.0/2.3 duratecs and many of them have 50k+ miles of being boosted and have had no mechanical problems. The stock bottom ends on the zetec can hold over 500hp the duratecs even more in fact theres a 2.0 zetec with over 600 whp and has over 30k miles of being boosted with no problems. Modding in itself does not cause mechanical problems its bad tuning that does that and also having poor quality parts. The best way to not have a problem is research research research.

firetruck

I don't think that my banks monster exhaust will hurt anything. that's all i have done to it. the cats and resonator are all there, so how could it effect the turbo over spooling? with the stock cats and resonator in place, the catback is just for sound. back pressure is maintained.

I'll call banks on that one.

Roughneck12

Kind of funny, that hasn't happened.

dajohu

Well it's not like there are 100's of thousands on the road, with many thousands being modded, plus it's not like they are in their 3rd model year... Oh wait!

I cannot imagine waiting 3 years/36k to start modding. The nice thing is once you start, you may as well keep going!

I haven't had to go in for any warranty claims on any new vehicle I've ever had. The one time I took my 07 Sport Trac in because I screwed up the computer while doing a failed tune upload, they replaced it under warranty anyways...

Z06 vett

i have been very busy and traded my 011 eccoboost after 13 months for the new 328I. I have tuned a couple 013 eccoboost this month and have had no problems. As for all the hype about warranty voiding is BS. The manufactures have to prove it or any aftermarket device broke it. Gm owns two HPtuners interfaces and tunes their cars with them. Ford vs Magnuson is a case that sets president.

thttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty_Act.

The Power commander company sale does to. The for "Off road use" disclaimer has wholes in it. The FTC asked where were the 10,000 plus off road bikes are?

The Ford dealers are not afraid and have been doing aftermarket for ever. FYI, the EPA says the ECU must be reprogrammed for E85 conversion. I have the correspondence to prove it. Look, cars are running on computer controlled fuel injection. The ability to change what you own is up to you. I have yet found a case fought in open court that say's tuning is a warranty void . Lots of hear say and second hand BS. The EPA states ignition timing is the only true method to get better mileage. We have thousands of vehicles on the road passing state emissions with these files. My dealers love what we provide has a service and they have tried it all. F150 eccoboost,87 octane with more power and a mile per gallon? Yes it is for real. I'll install it for you if you ask. If they reflash you it is your fault. You own your car they just service it. Besides how many warranty claims are out there? The Ford small cars are having trans problems but the trucks appear to be a job well done. Ford motor company got me out of a z06 vett into a coyote gt mustang(trans made in CHINA) . I have a vortech V3 with ~600hp at the wheel.

They have what is probably the future of the hobbyist engine swap locked up with the eccoboost alone. i would put one in any old muscle car and out perform most everything with mileage and performance..

All the disinformation is confusing. This is America and the car guys will prevail. Hell without us the industry would have gone the way of the condor. Public transportation would have won and the train would be how we get to work. The car co's think they are in control but the consumer dictates the products they build. Slowly but still....lol
I believe this is the best truck sense the model T. A real game changer.

PS: i find that "SCT" is the way to go for Ford!!(JMSChip.com)

Z06 vett

At Magnuson we believe you should be able to have big horsepower, drivability, and a long-lasting reliable product. In fact we’ve been making power you can live with for more than thirty years. We’ve used what we learned to develop Magnuson Supercharger Kits, the best-selling, most complete line of bolt on superchargers anywhere. We test each Magnuson Supercharger before it leaves the factory. Warranty claims are almost non-existent, but we stand behind the product if a problem arises. read more...


vortech and pro-charger,same co, will give such warranty if installed by a dealer.

If you beat the crap out of a non modded car they wont cover it anyway. The ecu has a log to show rpm, load, shifts ect.. Hell, they can start or stop it from running threw on star or the like. A buddy got an operator to chim in when he was running long at over 100 mph. He had it removed. Ford is reading all our emails trying to figure out a risk Management solution. All money wasted. They should encourage innovation and keep ahead of the pack. In a minute the Chinese and the 38,000 plus cars they build everyday will get here. Then what. rely on Brand Loyalty, No-F-Way. The best product with win every time. Newest first is my motto.

zach92r

Heres a story to support that ^^^ In addition to the focus club im apart of being way into the focus and making massive power out of a 4 banger more then even a truck We influenced ford on the new Ford Focus and Focus ST we had a ford rep from the development side of the focus come and speak to us about what we wanted and they delivered the focus and focus ST heck they took are recommendation to use the performance shocks and bucket seats in the ST.

Z06 vett

My mustang is the ride- fx 2011 sema car. Look for it on utube and face book. It and any many others are supported by oe for aftermarket. The best example is Carroll Shelby .Now ford owns his name. Aftermarket leads to product development.

Www.facebook.com/RideFxPerformance

Done on the phone

Derrick Moses

I have an f150 fx2 '12 ecoboost. I put a sct livewire ts on it. 10,000 miles later, I was hearing engine noises from the compartment. Called a tow truck. Before I got in with the tow truck driver, I reset the truck to stock(very smart of me). They had to install a new block(5,400$ thank god for warranty) due to number 3 bearing failure. They stated they have NEVER seen this happen. My advice to you guys? Yes it gives you ALOT more power, but trust me, it's not worth it. My transmission still doesn't work like it used to before I"tuned"it.