There is a fix for the condensation build up in the intercooler!
09-12-2012, 11:29 AM
#521
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Originally Posted by jlp16au
I don't know if this has already been posted, but I got this email from my Ford customer care rep today and thought I would share.
From Ford:
"There is a repair that will be available at the end of the fourth quarter in regards to your concern. The issue is that there is moisture that is building up in your CAC tube and it collects when you are driving at steady speeds for extended periods of time. Once you go to accelerate after it has built up it has been causing the lack of power, hesitating concern. There is a way to control it to an extent and that is if you are driving for extended periods of time hit the accelerator a few times to push out the moisture so that it is not collecting in the tube. It will not completely resolve your concern but it will help until the new design tube is available."
From Ford:
"There is a repair that will be available at the end of the fourth quarter in regards to your concern. The issue is that there is moisture that is building up in your CAC tube and it collects when you are driving at steady speeds for extended periods of time. Once you go to accelerate after it has built up it has been causing the lack of power, hesitating concern. There is a way to control it to an extent and that is if you are driving for extended periods of time hit the accelerator a few times to push out the moisture so that it is not collecting in the tube. It will not completely resolve your concern but it will help until the new design tube is available."
09-12-2012, 04:27 PM
#522
So are the 2013's going to come with this fix, or are still going to use the current setup and just wait for the fix like everyone else? Seems like it would be a waste of money and material to install the current setup only to replace it later.
09-12-2012, 06:22 PM
#523
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Ford knows this has the potential to affect every truck...but many people do not drive in the right conditions for it to happen, and may never experience it. With the supposed fix not due til end of quarter...you can bet the early 13's will not have these upgrades...because a majority of the trucks sold will not exhibit the symptoms, only a small percentage are driven in the right conditions to cause it. Ford wins that calculation, they don't care as they would lose more money postponing the 13 MY release vs fixing the few trucks that are brought in for the issue.
09-13-2012, 12:03 AM
#524
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I just spent the last 2 hours reading all 53 pages of this thread and...wow. I've got 5k miles on my eco and got a CEL two days ago. The service adviser said I need a new cat because of a fuel dump. I've never had a "fall on face" moment but there have been a few times that it didn't respond accordingly when hitting the accelerator. I just let off the gas and gradually accelerated with no problem. It's currently at the dealer awaiting the new cat, deflector, and flash. This is my first new truck and my first ford. I cant believe I spent 40k for this.
09-13-2012, 06:01 AM
#525
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On my 2011 sticker it says not for sell in California. I know that has to do with emissions.
Also California and other states use different blends of fuel. Could it be that some have these California emissions trucks that are using fuel that wasn't designed to run and after a long period of time running non California fuels it is plugging up the system?
Just a thought
Also California and other states use different blends of fuel. Could it be that some have these California emissions trucks that are using fuel that wasn't designed to run and after a long period of time running non California fuels it is plugging up the system?
Just a thought
09-13-2012, 12:43 PM
#526
Alcohol blended fuels run with less tail pipe emissions. Engine combustion area will also run cleaner internally. H2O being ingested into the motor could immediately remove some of the alcohol from suspension in the air creating misfire or lower power probably. Alcohol immediately goes to water. ie booze. % of alcohol in the fuel may differ with each state? The time allowed for such suspension changes is very mine-ute. With air volumn compressing in area and water condensation volumn not compressing in area. If water remains absorbed in the air volumn it will act with the air, but condensed it returns to its hydraulic laws unless it freezes there.
Thin a bypass design could solve much by not needing the CAC when at dew point temps ? Here we go again !
Thin a bypass design could solve much by not needing the CAC when at dew point temps ? Here we go again !
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09-14-2012, 11:31 AM
#529
In preferred embodiments, to, e.g., eliminate condensation build-up in the intake manifold and power cylinders, a charge-air cooler (CAC) and/or EGR cooler “bypass” system is provided that can, e.g., control the intake manifold temperature (IMT) above the dew-point temperature of the boosted air. Preferably, a two-port, single valve-body type valve is provided that proportionally controls the amount of charge-air that is “bypassed” (e.g., not cooled), while simultaneously diverting the charge-air cooler return, preferably, inversely proportionally
09-14-2012, 11:35 AM
#530
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In preferred embodiments, to, e.g., eliminate condensation build-up in the intake manifold and power cylinders, a charge-air cooler (CAC) and/or EGR cooler “bypass” system is provided that can, e.g., control the intake manifold temperature (IMT) above the dew-point temperature of the boosted air. Preferably, a two-port, single valve-body type valve is provided that proportionally controls the amount of charge-air that is “bypassed” (e.g., not cooled), while simultaneously diverting the charge-air cooler return, preferably, inversely proportionally
Just saying 
And what is the power cylinders you are referring to ??
Last edited by geno51; 09-14-2012 at 11:37 AM.