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There is a fix for the condensation build up in the intercooler!

Old 10-23-2012, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BucketMan
Oh I think Ford knows whats going on.

They are just crunching the numbers to see how they can get out of it cheapest and wit hthe least amount of damage to their pockets and reputation.

Prime example: 5 cent plastic deflector and a "ECM update."
While I agree that they may be looking for the cheap route, they still have to pay the dealer to put it on. It would take less time to change the coil you would think, than to install deflector and do computer update.
Idk, does seem off.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TDS FX4
The water is the root cause of this issue.. ..
If that were truly the only cause, then I can't explain why two different trucks in the same environment don't suffer the same. Mine, for instance, has had 2 minor hiccups in 20,000 miles in south La. Others can't seem to drive to the store without it stalling. Also, I can't explain why in 26 years we haven't heard of this issue from the Turbo Buick crowd who have a very similar intercooler.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BucketMan
Oh I think Ford knows whats going on.

They are just crunching the numbers to see how they can get out of it cheapest and wit hthe least amount of damage to their pockets and reputation.

Prime example: 5 cent plastic deflector and a "ECM update."
I tend to agree, here. Their engineers are probably arguing with management over the results of some benefit/cost analysis at the moment.
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Old 10-24-2012, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by engineermike
If that were truly the only cause, then I can't explain why two different trucks in the same environment don't suffer the same. Mine, for instance, has had 2 minor hiccups in 20,000 miles in south La. Others can't seem to drive to the store without it stalling. Also, I can't explain why in 26 years we haven't heard of this issue from the Turbo Buick crowd who have a very similar intercooler.
I can't say that its the ONLY cause, but the water issue needs to be addressed before anyone starts chasing their tails on ignition and fuel issues which are just symptoms from the induction of the water.
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Old 10-26-2012, 08:36 PM
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I just found out 2 days ago that my wife had experienced this once last summer when her mother called to ask if we had experienced what happened to her that day.

So my truck is going in Tues.

I still think the problem isn't the intercooler itself, but how it is mounted. It allows the condensation to pool until you get on it hard, creating enough vacuum to clear it out.

Has anyone who has this happen regularly tried standing the IC vertical or even slightly back????
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Old 10-26-2012, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TDS FX4
I can't say that its the ONLY cause, but the water issue needs to be addressed before anyone starts chasing their tails on ignition and fuel issues which are just symptoms from the induction of the water.
I respectfully disagree. Many turbo vehicles have been made with similar air/air intercoolers and no issues (GN, for instance). Also, the majority of F150 EB's don't have this issue. The intercoolers are the same on all the trucks. Something is different between the 5% of trucks with the issue and all the other ones. Changing the design to keep the intercooler dry is really just masking some other issue/difference.
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Old 10-27-2012, 08:55 AM
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Yea we defiantly need to fix this. I just had the deflector plate added to mine and it's still doing it. It's about time to get a lawyer.
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Old 10-27-2012, 09:39 AM
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Has anybody checked the tightness of the clamps on the intercooler?

Are y'all possibly flooring it at 55 and the truck is smacking the rev limiter in 1st gear? I can punch mine at 70mph and it'll down shift and hit 5500rpm in 2nd and bounce off the rev limiter a second before it up shifts to 3rd and starts pulling.
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This is what I noticed with the update... The truck is only hitting 10psi sometimes 12psi with fluctuation but not steady @ Wot. It would hold 15 psi before @ Wot. Now when it starts to misfire it goes into a limp mode and does NOT flash the CEL and will not let the truck go over 5 psi for a short period then returns to normal. I guess they are trying to save the cats or any other damage it may cause by doing this.
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FYI
I had this symptom on a regular basis - occurred every weekend on long trips.
I originally blocked the lower 7.5 inches of the intercooler and the problem went away - no symptom even after driving in downpours. I now have about 3.5-4 inches of the lower intercooler from side to side blocked and the symptom still does not occur.
I removed the block for 1 trip and it was raining. After stopping to refuel the engine misfired and bogged. No check engine light - No suprise as anyone who works on Fords knows they have to skip for a week to set a misfire code. I put the cover back on and finished the trip with no symptom occurring. Its a pretty simple test.
Just cut a piece of thick cardboard the width of the intercooler including the side tanks. Cut the height to cover the lower core at least to above the lower inlet. This allows heated compressed air to cross only at the very bottom of the intercooler and may prevent the water from staying in a condensed form.
Secure with plastic ties and paint it black before installation if you are vain and don't want people to see the cardboard in the opening of your bumper.
Try it and see if it works for you. I tried this as a means to verify that condensation was an issue. While it may not be a perfect cure it does work and can easily be removed. Ramjet
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