jayandsam09

Truck def doesn't have the torque towing that it did before the new ic and intake.

GermanEB

This looks like the current cooler, I can't see any difference...

Watt-maker

I can't see any difference from the pics either.

I think if Ford were to give it an honest try they would have to build an IC that had the outlet up high. That would also require new tubing to the TB but I think it would at least cut down on some of the water getting in there. Maybe a new air filter box that didn't draw air from in front of the wheel well that isn't really sealed off so not as much road spray could find its way in there.

GermanEB

i still can not believe there will be any problem due a condensat inside the IC. The Airflow of this Engine is so high, it will just take any water fumes right into the intake.

Has anyone ever take his Intercooler of and have actually seen the water?

That has to be a huge amount of water actually!
I have taken off my IC a couple times, and never had any water inside. Just a bit of oil, but thats normal.

geno51

I agree

EcoBco

I have seen water in it, it does happen.

MisterScott

Well, I read through all the pages on this thread over the last few days. I had my first experience with this issue at 11k miles Saturday evening when I was driving up I45 from Madisonville to Dallas. Raining heavily and traffic less than 65 miles per hour. Had 4 wheel auto engaged. I hit it twice and the vehicle stumbled. My buddy who was with woke up becuase it jolted him awake. He was like WTF was that. It was raining heavily and in the high 60's. I gues I can bring it in, but I might as well wait for the TSB later in the year. I might cycle it through so they are aware I am having the issue. Gawd I wish I had just bought the F250 diesel or another Ram HD. Not trying to knock Ford or the truck, but like many others here I just don't have the time to deal with these issues. I hope Ford gets this worked out.

JDogerty

If you have the time, I strongly suggest you take it in to your dealership for them to diagnose. Also call the 800 number for Ford listed in your owner's manual. I know several people who have had this issue, looked online, saw that Ford was already aware of it and never bothered to report it. However for Ford to properly estimate the scope of the problem they need to know when the problem occurs.

The truck stumbling is because of a misfire on bank 2 cylinders. The ECU will store some information about misfires, but only for a limited time. If you can get your truck into the dealership shortly after one of these events, they can perform their diagnostics and make their determination if your truck is suffering from the standard condensation in the CAC. They can't fix that at this time, but the important part here is that they log it into their system. If Ford doesn't have a record of it, it never happened. When a fix does come out they may decide that your truck doesn't need the fix until this problem happens again. Additionally, if this continues to reoccur it can be useful for Ford (and yourself) to have documentation on when and how many times this has happened.

sholland96

It kinda looks like the inlet and outlet are nearer to the bottom of the IC core. If so, this would definitely help eliminate the area at the bottom of the core where condensation pooling could occur...

The picture really aren't clear enough to say for sure though.

maplelakeduckslayer

I'm curious to know more as to why people believe the miss/shudder is torque converter related, and what kind of shudder/miss they have exactly, as there are several in this thread.

So the shudder/miss I have is only present when temps are around mid 50's or lower. Having the dew point close to ambient temp does not necessarily have an affect on the shudder/miss in mine, as I once thought. For instance my truck did it this morning, with a 56 degree ambient temp and dewpoint of 45 degrees. The only...and I mean only time it has done this shudder/miss with a temp above 50-some degrees was an afternoon after I had done extensive driving up and down hills that morning testing the shudder/miss. I assumed I built enough condensation up in the IC that it was still affecting the drive later in the day with temps in the 70's.

Through testing, when this occurs on my truck the turbos will come in and out of boost to the tune of 5+- psi...meaning going up a hill under 10 psi boost and all of a sudden it will drop to 5, then kick back in up to 10, back down...over and over. You can hear the turbos come in and out of boost.

People saying it has a shudder has gotten way too broad in this thread. I almost can't even follow this thread anymore, as I have from day one, as I no longer can pick out the people that have the same issue I have and what the fixes are.

Are the people with the new IC's that are still having the shuddering issue having issues similar to what I describe, or is it a driveline issue on your truck? Cause I believe it is condensation causing it in mine, given the circumstances it occurs and how the truck behaves. I am still hopeful that the new IC would resolve my issues, unless the people with the IC's state they have the same miss/shudder I have, then not so much.