Snow Performance Water-methanol ?
#11
couple quick questions..
How does this work for daily driving? Does it only kick in at certain rpm's?
How fast does the methanol run out when you fill a full tank on average, 100 miles, 1000 miles? Does the system shut itself off if you run out or is this a don't dare run or kaboom?
I know a lot of the kits are designed for pulling, is yours going to be more for perf or both?
Running 100% kit, does this make it so you have to run a special designed "juice" for it or would we still be able to run windshield washer fluid in a pinch?
What does this do for mileage?
I am thinking this kit for going out west with our sled trailer and a little extra help pulling some mtn passes. What i fear is a high maintenece system of constant filling at every gas stop or running out by accident and not having livernois official methanol to add to it.. (seems some kits are like that..)
How does this work for daily driving? Does it only kick in at certain rpm's?
How fast does the methanol run out when you fill a full tank on average, 100 miles, 1000 miles? Does the system shut itself off if you run out or is this a don't dare run or kaboom?
I know a lot of the kits are designed for pulling, is yours going to be more for perf or both?
Running 100% kit, does this make it so you have to run a special designed "juice" for it or would we still be able to run windshield washer fluid in a pinch?
What does this do for mileage?
I am thinking this kit for going out west with our sled trailer and a little extra help pulling some mtn passes. What i fear is a high maintenece system of constant filling at every gas stop or running out by accident and not having livernois official methanol to add to it.. (seems some kits are like that..)
#12
F150 Forum
Couple quick questions..
How does this work for daily driving? Does it only kick in at certain RPM's?
How fast does the methanol run out when you fill a full tank on average, 100 miles, 1000 miles? Does the system shut itself off if you run out or is this a don't dare run or kaboom?
I know a lot of the kits are designed for pulling, is yours going to be more for perf or both?
Running 100% kit, does this make it so you have to run a special designed "juice" for it or would we still be able to run windshield washer fluid in a pinch?
What does this do for mileage?
I am thinking this kit for going out west with our sled trailer and a little extra help pulling some mtn passes. What I fear is a high maintenece system of constant filling at every gas stop or running out by accident and not having Livernois official methanol to add to it.. (seems some kits are like that..)
How does this work for daily driving? Does it only kick in at certain RPM's?
How fast does the methanol run out when you fill a full tank on average, 100 miles, 1000 miles? Does the system shut itself off if you run out or is this a don't dare run or kaboom?
I know a lot of the kits are designed for pulling, is yours going to be more for perf or both?
Running 100% kit, does this make it so you have to run a special designed "juice" for it or would we still be able to run windshield washer fluid in a pinch?
What does this do for mileage?
I am thinking this kit for going out west with our sled trailer and a little extra help pulling some mtn passes. What I fear is a high maintenece system of constant filling at every gas stop or running out by accident and not having Livernois official methanol to add to it.. (seems some kits are like that..)
Typically, with moderately spirited driving 1 gallon of methanol lasts for 1 tank of gasoline. The methanol system never shuts itself off when low on fluid, but we do set these up with a low level light so you know to take it easy on the vehicle when it is low on methanol.
I guess I am not following you on a kit being designed for pulling. There is no design variation for how you are using the methanol. There may be companies that market there kits for pulling, but it's just that. Marketing.
We only use, tune for, and recommend systems that use 100% pure methanol (we use VP racing M-1 methanol, but any race grade methanol is fine). The 50/50 kits, or one's that use special "juices" typically use much lower end components (lines, pumps, fittings) as they avoid needing to have something durable enough to handle pure methanol. To answer your question, no, our setup will require pure methanol, anything else would be a "use at your own risk".
Now as far as the methanol, it is not designed to increase efficiency. It is designed to be able to run more aggressive tunes then you could on pump gas alone. For this reason, it really wouldn't be used for towing, as our tow tunes address that already without the need for methanol. Turning up the power that aggressively, and then using methanol to help control damage, would never be our recommendation for these trucks. I am sure even with that said we will still have people that want to. This again would be filed in the "use at your own risk" folder.
Thank you,
Rick
Last edited by Livernois Motorsports; 09-22-2012 at 01:31 PM.
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#15
F150 Forum
I know what you mean.
There is a meth specific tune. If you don't want to run meth, you can switch to a non-meth tune and shut the power to the meth kit off.
-Rick
#16
better looking than geno
And running the meth without tuning for it will be a waste, just a FYI.
I've been looking at your kit for a bit Rick, seems good. Would have to change tuners...which sucks..lol.
http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...tion-Kit-.html
I've been looking at your kit for a bit Rick, seems good. Would have to change tuners...which sucks..lol.
http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...tion-Kit-.html
#17
Senior Member
Originally Posted by CoreyMS
And running the meth without tuning for it will be a waste, just a FYI.
I've been looking at your kit for a bit Rick, seems good. Would have to change tuners...which sucks..lol.
http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...tion-Kit-.html
I've been looking at your kit for a bit Rick, seems good. Would have to change tuners...which sucks..lol.
http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...tion-Kit-.html
Last edited by jcain; 09-22-2012 at 03:18 PM.
#19
Senior Member
well, nitrous will definately be more risky and rough on parts, unless you run a progressive shot. for performance pre cubic dollar, nitrous is king considering initial investment. but 3 hits kills a 40$ bottle fill so eventually they'll offset. safety wise, meth has a slight edge, but you can launch a motor if the meth pump fails during a WOT pull and your tune relies on the meth. but if you lose a nitrous solenoid during WOT, it'll just go rich, but if you lose the FUEL solenoid during a WOT nitrous pass you can pretty much kiss it goodbye. a fuel pressure switch "may" save you during that scenario but it might not.
i'd run a daily meth kit and a tune not relying on it, and run a meth specific tune at the track. it's all risky business, allllllllllll of it.
i'd run a daily meth kit and a tune not relying on it, and run a meth specific tune at the track. it's all risky business, allllllllllll of it.
#20
Senior Member
The meth kit seems like a cool idea. Just all the stuff I see online about the different kits is a lot to digest.
But cost wise.....
I have a dry kit already right here staring me in the face.... I just need to get my bottle re certified. I barely used it. Having a scab limits my bottle mounting options inside.
I know.. poor me... decisions decisions. There's always jato rockets.....lol
But cost wise.....
I have a dry kit already right here staring me in the face.... I just need to get my bottle re certified. I barely used it. Having a scab limits my bottle mounting options inside.
I know.. poor me... decisions decisions. There's always jato rockets.....lol