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Old 09-22-2012, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rob1334
couple quick questions..


How does this work for daily driving? Does it only kick in at certain rpm's?

How fast does the methanol run out when you fill a full tank on average, 100 miles, 1000 miles? Does the system shut itself off if you run out or is this a don't dare run or kaboom?

I know a lot of the kits are designed for pulling, is yours going to be more for perf or both?

Running 100% kit, does this make it so you have to run a special designed "juice" for it or would we still be able to run windshield washer fluid in a pinch?

What does this do for mileage?

I am thinking this kit for going out west with our sled trailer and a little extra help pulling some mtn passes. What i fear is a high maintenece system of constant filling at every gas stop or running out by accident and not having livernois official methanol to add to it.. (seems some kits are like that..)
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Old 09-22-2012, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob1334
Couple quick questions..


How does this work for daily driving? Does it only kick in at certain RPM's?

How fast does the methanol run out when you fill a full tank on average, 100 miles, 1000 miles? Does the system shut itself off if you run out or is this a don't dare run or kaboom?

I know a lot of the kits are designed for pulling, is yours going to be more for perf or both?

Running 100% kit, does this make it so you have to run a special designed "juice" for it or would we still be able to run windshield washer fluid in a pinch?

What does this do for mileage?

I am thinking this kit for going out west with our sled trailer and a little extra help pulling some mtn passes. What I fear is a high maintenece system of constant filling at every gas stop or running out by accident and not having Livernois official methanol to add to it.. (seems some kits are like that..)
The Methanol system is perfect for a daily driver as it is boost activated. We trigger it to only activate after a certain PSI so consumption is relatively low, unless you are always heavy on the throttle.

Typically, with moderately spirited driving 1 gallon of methanol lasts for 1 tank of gasoline. The methanol system never shuts itself off when low on fluid, but we do set these up with a low level light so you know to take it easy on the vehicle when it is low on methanol.

I guess I am not following you on a kit being designed for pulling. There is no design variation for how you are using the methanol. There may be companies that market there kits for pulling, but it's just that. Marketing.

We only use, tune for, and recommend systems that use 100% pure methanol (we use VP racing M-1 methanol, but any race grade methanol is fine). The 50/50 kits, or one's that use special "juices" typically use much lower end components (lines, pumps, fittings) as they avoid needing to have something durable enough to handle pure methanol. To answer your question, no, our setup will require pure methanol, anything else would be a "use at your own risk".

Now as far as the methanol, it is not designed to increase efficiency. It is designed to be able to run more aggressive tunes then you could on pump gas alone. For this reason, it really wouldn't be used for towing, as our tow tunes address that already without the need for methanol. Turning up the power that aggressively, and then using methanol to help control damage, would never be our recommendation for these trucks. I am sure even with that said we will still have people that want to. This again would be filed in the "use at your own risk" folder.

Thank you,

Rick

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Old 09-22-2012, 01:19 PM
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So would the truck always keep a meth tune on it?

I currently use the 93v2 tune, so when the meth is not activated, would it be like driving around normal on that tune?

Not sure how to word what I want to ask.. hah

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Typically, with moderately spirited driving 1 gallon of methanol lasts for 1 gallon of gasoline. TYPO?
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Originally Posted by jetlag
So would the truck always keep a meth tune on it?

I currently use the 93v2 tune, so when the meth is not activated, would it be like driving around normal on that tune?

Not sure how to word what I want to ask.. hah

I know what you mean.

There is a meth specific tune. If you don't want to run meth, you can switch to a non-meth tune and shut the power to the meth kit off.

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Typically, with moderately spirited driving 1 gallon of methanol lasts for 1 gallon of gasoline. TYPO?
Oops... good eye! Fixed it. Should read typically, with moderately spirited driving 1 gallon of methanol lasts for 1 tank of gasoline.

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And running the meth without tuning for it will be a waste, just a FYI.

I've been looking at your kit for a bit Rick, seems good. Would have to change tuners...which sucks..lol.

http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...tion-Kit-.html
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Originally Posted by CoreyMS
And running the meth without tuning for it will be a waste, just a FYI.

I've been looking at your kit for a bit Rick, seems good. Would have to change tuners...which sucks..lol.

http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/...tion-Kit-.html
Meth has a great gain on forced induction setups with no tune. You'd be happily surprised. Especially during the summer time or high heat situations like towing.

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Will the kit contain a new map sensor like the sho kit as well?

I'm on the fence to become either a nitrous junky or a meth head.....lol.
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well, nitrous will definately be more risky and rough on parts, unless you run a progressive shot. for performance pre cubic dollar, nitrous is king considering initial investment. but 3 hits kills a 40$ bottle fill so eventually they'll offset. safety wise, meth has a slight edge, but you can launch a motor if the meth pump fails during a WOT pull and your tune relies on the meth. but if you lose a nitrous solenoid during WOT, it'll just go rich, but if you lose the FUEL solenoid during a WOT nitrous pass you can pretty much kiss it goodbye. a fuel pressure switch "may" save you during that scenario but it might not.

i'd run a daily meth kit and a tune not relying on it, and run a meth specific tune at the track. it's all risky business, allllllllllll of it.
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The meth kit seems like a cool idea. Just all the stuff I see online about the different kits is a lot to digest.
But cost wise.....
I have a dry kit already right here staring me in the face.... I just need to get my bottle re certified. I barely used it. Having a scab limits my bottle mounting options inside.

I know.. poor me... decisions decisions. There's always jato rockets.....lol


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