torontonian

Toyota to pay $17.35M federal fine for delayed Lexus RX recall:
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/18/t...xus-rx-recall/

I think somebody will get killed because of the F150 Ecoboost engine issue sooner or later, it's just a disaster in the waiting. I am very angry with Ford as a 2012 ecoboost owner that Ford has keep me totally in darkness with critical defect. I am wondering when Ford will get the same treatment as Toyota for delayed recall?

05mustang_tt_charged

What critical defect?

The problem Lexus had was a gas pedal getting stuck wide open and cars racing out of control. Ford has a problem with its engine studdering after being driven long distances due to condensation build up. I think a truck that will not accelerate is safer than a car that accelerates uncontrolabably.

If you pull out to pass on a two lane road you should leave yourself more than enough time to either make the pass safely or slow down and get back in line.

geno51

exactly

Rcsharp

I drove my ecoboost from London to Ottawa 570 Kms twice a week for 6 weeks in jan/feb and never had a single problem at 120km/h. I have 36,000 Kms on it now. Guess I have a good one?

MadocHandyman

While I agree some Eco's have an issue and should be taken care of, I disagree that it is a huge disaster waiting to happen. It doesn't matter what you are driving, you should be ready to take the defensive if something comes up.
And as said above, if you are cutting it that close when passing etc, then maybe you should be taking life a little bit slower.

So is yours displaying symptoms, as in the shudder/misfire?

marauder11

I need to stop reading these post . I have not had an issue and i am developing a complex of worrying by reading these.

I wish someone would make a poll for those who love the Eco and that all who read it with no issues would post on it. Maybe then the few unlucky people would realize that the issue is not that big

Rockhopper

I can think of a number of situations where someone assumed it was safe to pass but something altered that perception, and to say every pass you ever made was perfect and without incident is BS.

However this finger pointing is only diluting the fact that Ford has a design flaw that is affecting VERY FEW trucks in certain situations. When it does lose all power tho its unsettling to say the least and you may change your opinions when it happens to you or if your wife is driving with your kids in the truck.

mslipac

I have 12 EB I purchased March 20th and to date I have 70000kms on it
at 6500kms I went to pass my load from 80km/h for 6hrs + constant speed and outside temp was +25'C it did the shudder and loss of power etc
could not have repeated that issue to date...
my motor does have a miss going uphill under cruse or light throttle pressure with no check engine or codes...only seems really noticeable when bellow -10'C outside temp...I have tried covering my intercooler with a cardboard completely in the front and drove for 2 days like that and the miss had dissipated I don't know what to make of it

I use my truck as an escort vehicle...long periods of driving low speed, idling, etc

torontonian

I owned my 2012 F150 since September and haven't had the issue of loss of power when accelerating yet, however I would be naive to not worry about it simply because most F150s with eco engine doesn't have this problem. To me this is a serious design flaw that could directly lead to deadly accidents. Toyota's recall is to address the risk that a loose floormat could force down the accelerator pedal. Most affected Toyota Lexus owners may never experience the issue but a proven fatal accident linked to the defect is enough to warrant a recall. What I am trying to say here is, how much of a difference between the eco engine acceleration issue and the floormat issue? the commonality I see is: most affected owners may never experience it, but when it happens, they could both cause serious accidents.

For those of you who haven't heard about the 11-12 ecoboost engine issue, here is a 111 page thread:
https://www.f150forum.com/f70/there-...cooler-156900/

I beg to differ, the danger of losing power on a busy highway, i.e. while merging or changing lane is beyond the control of "safe driving habits", at least for me.

05mustang_tt_charged

I do not see how you can comment on it if it has never happened to you. I have had it happen 11 times and my truck has been to the dealership 4 times so far. I have 11,282 miles on it when I parked it at the heliport to come offshore. I have had it happen when entering the interstate on I10 in Texas with traffic coming up behind me doing 70+ mph. I calmly put the Hazard Lights on (as that is what they are their for, to alert other drivers that your vehicle is in destress) and pulled over to the side of the road. I have had it happen in Tennessee when pulling a tractor and trailer weighing 9,700 lbs up a mountain. I again put the hazard lights on and pulled off to the side of the road.

This is not a Toyota type problem where the vehicle is out of control. It does not accelerate and you lose or maintain speed. Trust me when I tell you that I would love for my $50k+ truck to always be 100% and be problem free.