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Old 11-03-2013, 04:34 PM   #11
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They will probably contract that out to Shawn Ellis. LOL! And have him do the marketing too!
No way to make that family friendly...or fcc compliant.
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I am guessing you missed the intended humor in that.
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Sure I did. I was agreeing.
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No way to make that family friendly...or fcc compliant.
Lmfao!!!!!
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When the new GM 6.2 hit's the streets with 420hp/460ftlbs I expect Ford to retune the ecoboost to slightly beat those numbers.

Not sure if they will wait until the '15 comes out or do it for the '14. What will be interesting is if they just detuned it to help with the condensation issue, now they are going to crank the power back up higher than before and not expect issues?

Also supposed to be a smaller ecoboost in the '15 lineup. I expect the 3.7 NA to disappear and be replaced by it.
Bump up the 6.2 too...might as well tag team if you can!!! Heck, and after GM showing that Cheyenne concept at SEMA (RCSB w/6.2) might as well get a RCSB Lightning concept ready for when they take the sheet off the next gen truck...I'm thinking TT 5.0 or whatever that "VooDoo" project entails for the next-gen Shelby variant...bring a howitzer to a gun fight...that's how i roll!!!
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Bump up the 6.2 too...might as well tag team if you can!!! Heck, and after GM showing that Cheyenne concept at SEMA (RCSB w/6.2) might as well get a RCSB Lightning concept ready for when they take the sheet off the next gen truck...I'm thinking TT 5.0 or whatever that "VooDoo" project entails for the next-gen Shelby variant...bring a howitzer to a gun fight...that's how i roll!!!
Ford doesn't want to sell many 6.2's in the 1/2 ton market. They get bad fuel mileage and hurt Ford in meeting CAFE standards. GM's new 6.2 is rated at 15/21 for a 2wd while Ford's is rated at I think 13/17. The 6.2 needs either dumped or have some modern technology added to it to increase fuel economy. A TT 5.0 is probably not very likely as the 3.5 can make plenty of added HP without doing anything but retuning it.
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Ford doesn't want to sell many 6.2's in the 1/2 ton market. They get bad fuel mileage and hurt Ford in meeting CAFE standards. GM's new 6.2 is rated at 15/21 for a 2wd while Ford's is rated at I think 13/17. The 6.2 needs either dumped or have some modern technology added to it to increase fuel economy. A TT 5.0 is probably not very likely as the 3.5 can make plenty of added HP without doing anything but retuning it.
Oh I agree on the 6.2...it's days in the half-ton are numbered and if I was doing an all out build I'd take the 5.0 over the 6.2 due to the newer technology and the support it has with the Mustang crowd...more so the latter. For a volume motor yes the EB could be retuned to make plenty of power BUT if there is going to be a "Lightning" comeback I'm thinking GT500 type output numbers. Having said that I also think the 5.8's days are numbered too. Ford is rumored to be working on a 5.0+ TT motor (VooDoo) making close to 600hp that'll be in the next gen GT500 (or whatever they decide to call it). That's more than a tune to get there with the 3.5EB.
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My butt dyno can't tell the difference between ethanol 87 and non-ethanol 93.
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the wallet will be lighter however, wich may help 60' times.

On the dyno, Fords numbers likely not repeatable as the air is never the same 2 days in a row.
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Should we bring back the thread where I stated the Eco-boost design was optimized to run on premium? Some folks sure jumped at that one.
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Should we bring back the thread where I stated the Eco-boost design was optimized to run on premium? Some folks sure jumped at that one.
Enjoy crow for dinner boyz.

Actually no. I noticed this last month when they changed to the 2014 models. I emailed Mark Williams at Pickuptrucks.com about this since he published different numbers on premium fuel. His response is below.

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This is just how Ford published that the 2011 Ecoboost had a different 6th gear ratio then all the other engines in the spec sheets, but it actually didn't. It wasn't fixed until the following year. I have yet to email Mike Levine who used to have Mark Williams' job as chief editor at Pickuptrcks.com, and now is Ford's truck communications manager. I will let you guys know what he says as well.

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