Official Sibling Rivalry Death Match!
03-05-2012, 09:56 AM
#561
I would, but he's not the one posting the numbers here and claiming them to be the end-all.
Most people put more stock in the PUT.com test over the 5 star, so I don't have to repeat it to get people to believe it. Where does it say the converter wasn't locked up during the 5.0 run? Judging by the graph, it looks like it was locked up.
And again, they spend 6 hours on the dyno with the EB working on getting accurate low-end torque numbers, NOT optimizing top end hp. You can't seem to understand this even though it's been in your face a few times. "The EcoBoost gasoline twin-turbo direct-injection engine required more than six hours to test properly on the dyno because measuring its low-end power output was difficult." Just accept it, already.
Even the earlier test from PUTC had the EB making more power, though only 5 hp that time.
Most people put more stock in the PUT.com test over the 5 star, so I don't have to repeat it to get people to believe it. Where does it say the converter wasn't locked up during the 5.0 run? Judging by the graph, it looks like it was locked up.
And again, they spend 6 hours on the dyno with the EB working on getting accurate low-end torque numbers, NOT optimizing top end hp. You can't seem to understand this even though it's been in your face a few times. "The EcoBoost gasoline twin-turbo direct-injection engine required more than six hours to test properly on the dyno because measuring its low-end power output was difficult." Just accept it, already.
Even the earlier test from PUTC had the EB making more power, though only 5 hp that time.
They ran both trucks in second gear, the 5.0 NEVER locks the TC in second gear which Mike at 5star confirms. Can't speak for the 3.5 because I don't own one. At least have some intellectual honesty here, the first PUTC shows 5 hp difference, they ford factory numbers show 5 HP difference, yet the results where the ford engineer runs the same setting for both trucks and the 5.0 comes up way short you call believable........ Like I said, in the RCSB a stock 5.0 puts more HP to the ground than any configuration available for the 3.5.
03-05-2012, 10:56 AM
#563
I was attempting to get you to understand that comparing your towing mileage to someone else is a futile effort because of all the differences in trailer configuration. The rest was an explanation of a comparison and how it might apply to your situation. Now, go back and read it concentrate really hard.
03-05-2012, 01:52 PM
#564
Senior Member
Originally Posted by Loki 5.0
It's flawed , you are comparing a Dyna-jet Dyno wiyth a Dyno-Dynamics dyno which ALWAYS reads lower than Dyna-Jet. Fudging on the EB weights also I see. Nice try.
If that's the case then you have officially classed yourself as the forum retard! Loki no one can argue the fact that the 5.0 rcsb with the 5.0 will be the fastest truck STOCK and no one can argue that a blown 5.0 will smoke a EB.
But if you argue that a screw f15o fx4 both trucks exactly the same and both 100% stock with = drivers and claim the 5.0 is faster. I can tell by your posting that you are a smart guy and it shows that also when you wont take me up on my race offer cause you know that the power loss of the EB vs the 5.0 at altitude is going to be huge in the favor of the EB! So I assume your either just retarted or what i really think is going on is your living up to the Loki name god of causing trouble in Greek myth
In greek mythology, Loki or Loptr is a god or jötunn (or both). Loki is the son of Fárbauti and Laufey, and the brother of Helblindi and Býleistr. By the jötunn Angrboða, Loki is the father of Hel, the wolf Fenrir, and the world serpent Jörmungandr. By his wife Sigyn, Loki is the father of Nari or Narfi. And with the stallion Svaðilfari as the father, Loki gave birth—in the form of a mare—to the eight-legged horse Sleipnir. In addition, Loki is referred to as the father of Váli in the Prose Edda.
Loki's relation with the gods varies by source. Loki sometimes assists the gods and sometimes causes problems for them. Loki is a shape shifter and in separate incidents he appears in the form of a salmon, mare, seal, a fly, and possibly an elderly woman. Loki's positive relations with the gods end with his role in engineering the death of the god Baldr. Loki is eventually bound by the gods with the entrails of one of his sons or .
Loki's relation with the gods varies by source. Loki sometimes assists the gods and sometimes causes problems for them. Loki is a shape shifter and in separate incidents he appears in the form of a salmon, mare, seal, a fly, and possibly an elderly woman. Loki's positive relations with the gods end with his role in engineering the death of the god Baldr. Loki is eventually bound by the gods with the entrails of one of his sons or .
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Last edited by geno51; 03-05-2012 at 02:29 PM.
03-05-2012, 02:32 PM
#565
So are in stiockyou sayng the 5.o makes more power and tq then the ecoboost form!
If that's the case then you have officially classed yourself as the forum retard! Loki no one can argue the fact that the 5.0 rcsb with the 5.0 will be the fastest truck STOCK and no one can argue that a blown 5.0 will smoke a EB.
But if you argue that a screw f15o fx4 both trucks exactly the same and both 100% stock with = drivers and claim the 5.0 is faster.
Then your just retarted or living up to the Loki name god of causing trouble in Greek myth
Or their Ecoboost counterparts/\/\/\
HAHA LOLOLOL!!!
If that's the case then you have officially classed yourself as the forum retard! Loki no one can argue the fact that the 5.0 rcsb with the 5.0 will be the fastest truck STOCK and no one can argue that a blown 5.0 will smoke a EB.
But if you argue that a screw f15o fx4 both trucks exactly the same and both 100% stock with = drivers and claim the 5.0 is faster.
Then your just retarted or living up to the Loki name god of causing trouble in Greek myth
Or their Ecoboost counterparts/\/\/\
HAHA LOLOLOL!!!
03-05-2012, 02:36 PM
#566
03-05-2012, 02:39 PM
#567
Senior Member
03-05-2012, 02:43 PM
#568
Senior Member
And the point we are making that you wont get through your head or admit to is in = trucks the EB is faster. You clearly have some racing back ground so you know the RCSB has a major weight advantage! 
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ARGGGGG your killing me I think im losing hair LOL oh wait I am already bald nevermind
03-05-2012, 02:46 PM
#569
Senior Member
Originally Posted by geno51
And the point we are making that you wont get through your head or admit to is in = trucks the EB is faster. You clearly have some racing back ground so you know the RCSB has a major weight advantage!
ARGGGGG your killing me I think im losing hair LOL oh wait I am already bald nevermind
03-05-2012, 02:52 PM
#570
Senior Member
