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Old 08-26-2013, 11:51 AM
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That's a theory I entertained. A lot of people dont look that the 5.0s hidden potential. With my car, ( given its a lot lighter, less air resistance, lighter drive line, ect..) gets 27 mpg and produces over 500hp N/A with a very aggressive tune, while still being a reliable, and drivable. If it had the ability to control its fuel injections via DI along with its already impressive Tivct system, it could really be a perfect engine for many platforms. Putting two very efficient low boost turbo's on could make this one of the greatest combinations. As long as ford executes it without a hitch. Im sure they could keep the boost down enough to keep engine parts cost down as well.
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Originally Posted by wasinger3000

That's a theory I entertained. A lot of people dont look that the 5.0s hidden potential. With my car, ( given its a lot lighter, less air resistance, lighter drive line, ect..) gets 27 mpg and produces over 500hp N/A with a very aggressive tune, while still being a reliable, and drivable. If it had the ability to control its fuel injections via DI along with its already impressive Tivct system, it could really be a perfect engine for many platforms. Putting two very efficient low boost turbo's on could make this one of the greatest combinations. As long as ford executes it without a hitch. Im sure they could keep the boost down enough to keep engine parts cost down as well.
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In all honesty, Ford wouldn't even need two turbos. One small turbo with no lag could develop monstrous lowend torque and then just bleed the boost off as RPMs rise. The 5.0 can make plenty of horsepower without a turbo, it just needs that lowend grunt of an Ecoboost. And with only one turbo, it would be cheaper and more reliable.
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Originally Posted by Bennyboy
In all honesty, Ford wouldn't even need two turbos. One small turbo with no lag could develop monstrous lowend torque and then just bleed the boost off as RPMs rise. The 5.0 can make plenty of horsepower without a turbo, it just needs that lowend grunt of an Ecoboost. And with only one turbo, it would be cheaper and more reliable.
I tend to agree with you. It could almost be tuned like a diesel truck turbo, where the boost is moderate and tapers from there. I don't think you would need more than 6 to 8 pounds of boost with an Eaton style rotor to get three effect you need.
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Originally Posted by Ssls6
DI by itself is maybe a 1% improvement in fuel economy so I doubt you'll so a NA DI 5.0 liter motor. DI with forced induction makes more sense. CAFE standards are going up and up so I think Ford will "eco" more and more vehicles. I also think we will see the use of smaller diesels in the US increase.
That's true, but you get more torque, especially in the lower RPM band, and combine that with a single turbo and 8 lbs of boost, and you just replaced the 6.2 with a more powerful, more fuel efficient engine that would impact Ford's CAFE average quite a bit.
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3.0 EB (replaces 3.7)
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The new engines have already been announced:

2.7 Eco V6
3.5 N/A V6 (From the Explorer I think)
3.5 Eco
5.0 V8

http://www.autos.ca/general-news/for...ore-efficient/

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Originally Posted by sullyman
I tend to agree with you. It could almost be tuned like a diesel truck turbo, where the boost is moderate and tapers from there. I don't think you would need more than 6 to 8 pounds of boost with an Eaton style rotor to get three effect you need.
Yep, check out VW and Audis engines. Same principle applied from engines ranging from 1.8 L4s to a 5.2L V10. Torque peaks as low as 1800 rpm and boost tapers off to maintain that peak torque for several thousand rpm. Torque graph is a perfectly horizontal line, horsepower is a perfectly straight 45 degree line. Perfect for a truck.



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