New Ecoboost Tunes from Diablosport - +90hp/90ftlbs
07-28-2014, 09:10 AM
#31
Lol people really defend their custom tunes, i could easily buy all the tuners custom files view the data files and very easily create a file that will compete with custom tunes. i imagine a company with actual IT tech would have no problem. If im the last product to market i can pick and choose(ie copy) the best of the best for my basic entry, its only code after all.
That being said id believe those number spreads from stock on low grade 87 to tuned on race fuel.
That being said id believe those number spreads from stock on low grade 87 to tuned on race fuel.
07-28-2014, 09:53 AM
#33
A quick visit to ssi forum will display the sheer hypocrisy that groups brings every time they post or are told to post on other forums.
The customers/members and some lapdogs are sent in to discredit anything that either competes or appears to compete with SSI.
I for one am sick and tired of it. I hate having to read through the bs.
It's interesting that we never hear from Shawn himself,but I think we all know why he isn't allowed to speak on his own.
The customers/members and some lapdogs are sent in to discredit anything that either competes or appears to compete with SSI.
I for one am sick and tired of it. I hate having to read through the bs.
It's interesting that we never hear from Shawn himself,but I think we all know why he isn't allowed to speak on his own.
07-28-2014, 10:26 AM
#34
AGAIN we are simply trying to bring to light a product that overall "we believe" is the best on the market at the moment. It is our professional assessment that the driveability, performance, and reliability of the Diablosport tunes are best on the market at the moment.
Where do we qualify to assess those variables? We think that after 20+ years of experience in this industry, developing products with various major companies throughout various platforms our opinion has some weight.We have had numerous magazine covers over the years showcasing our expertise. We also had the fastest ecoboost truck in the country(TurboPete) until just recently where MPT took over that crown.
You claim that we have not extensively tested the tunes we referenced. Where do YOU QUALIFY to make such claims?
How is it that you assume that we have or have not done testing on those tunes. (Are you Professor Xavier??????)
AGAIN we simply are bringing to life a company with a new product. It is something else to offer the ecoboost community for those that may not be satisfied with what they have or are willing to try something new. It's very simple, if you are an SSI customer and you are happy with your product we are happy for you, but lets save the ecoboost community the pain of wading through all the back and forth drama, that seems to come with every thread whenever SSI is mentioned.
Where do we qualify to assess those variables? We think that after 20+ years of experience in this industry, developing products with various major companies throughout various platforms our opinion has some weight.We have had numerous magazine covers over the years showcasing our expertise. We also had the fastest ecoboost truck in the country(TurboPete) until just recently where MPT took over that crown.
You claim that we have not extensively tested the tunes we referenced. Where do YOU QUALIFY to make such claims?
How is it that you assume that we have or have not done testing on those tunes. (Are you Professor Xavier??????)
AGAIN we simply are bringing to life a company with a new product. It is something else to offer the ecoboost community for those that may not be satisfied with what they have or are willing to try something new. It's very simple, if you are an SSI customer and you are happy with your product we are happy for you, but lets save the ecoboost community the pain of wading through all the back and forth drama, that seems to come with every thread whenever SSI is mentioned.
I'm running an SSI tune, and an SSI member did make the comparison but I invite Livernois ( you know, that other company you threw under the bus to shovel your canned tunes/programmers ) to comment as well about how much worse their custom tunes are than Diablo canned tunes.
ANY custom tune ( ie you've provided at least one data log and subsequent revision for your vehicle ) from ANY of the major Ecoboost tuners will be superior to a canned tune. Period.
The problem is not that you THINK the tune has better drivability or reliability ( those are awfully difficult to prove ) but when you say they have better PERFORMANCE and you proceed to throw custom tuners under the bus. Know what you could have said?
"Diablo provides a solid, safe and reliable tune from a major industry backed tuner with years of experience and thousands of vehicles tuned. Every Diablo tune is guarenteed to improve drivability, performance and, in some cases, even fuel efficiency. Although custom tunes due have their advantages, this is a great option for people wanting a great tune with no hassle and the ability for custom tuning in the future."
Bingo -- you just sold units without having to take a dump in someone elses Cheerios and subsequently defend yourself from the claim that your canned tunes were superior WITHOUT providing ANY data at all to support it.
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brucesears (07-28-2014)
07-28-2014, 10:31 AM
#35
The problem is it sounds like you are a salesman, not a tuner. A salesman bashes other companies products to try and sell their own without providing supporting data. That's what you did.
I'm running an SSI tune, and an SSI member did make the comparison but I invite Livernois ( you know, that other company you threw under the bus to shovel your canned tunes/programmers ) to comment as well about how much worse their custom tunes are than Diablo canned tunes.
ANY custom tune ( ie you've provided at least one data log and subsequent revision for your vehicle ) from ANY of the major Ecoboost tuners will be superior to a canned tune. Period.
The problem is not that you THINK the tune has better drivability or reliability ( those are awfully difficult to prove ) but when you say they have better PERFORMANCE and you proceed to throw custom tuners under the bus. Know what you could have said?
"Diablo provides a solid, safe and reliable tune from a major industry backed tuner with years of experience and thousands of vehicles tuned. Every Diablo tune is guarenteed to improve drivability, performance and, in some cases, even fuel efficiency. Although custom tunes due have their advantages, this is a great option for people wanting a great tune with no hassle and the ability for custom tuning in the future."
Bingo -- you just sold units without having to take a dump in someone elses Cheerios and subsequently defend yourself from the claim that your canned tunes were superior WITHOUT providing ANY data at all to support it.
I'm running an SSI tune, and an SSI member did make the comparison but I invite Livernois ( you know, that other company you threw under the bus to shovel your canned tunes/programmers ) to comment as well about how much worse their custom tunes are than Diablo canned tunes.
ANY custom tune ( ie you've provided at least one data log and subsequent revision for your vehicle ) from ANY of the major Ecoboost tuners will be superior to a canned tune. Period.
The problem is not that you THINK the tune has better drivability or reliability ( those are awfully difficult to prove ) but when you say they have better PERFORMANCE and you proceed to throw custom tuners under the bus. Know what you could have said?
"Diablo provides a solid, safe and reliable tune from a major industry backed tuner with years of experience and thousands of vehicles tuned. Every Diablo tune is guarenteed to improve drivability, performance and, in some cases, even fuel efficiency. Although custom tunes due have their advantages, this is a great option for people wanting a great tune with no hassle and the ability for custom tuning in the future."
Bingo -- you just sold units without having to take a dump in someone elses Cheerios and subsequently defend yourself from the claim that your canned tunes were superior WITHOUT providing ANY data at all to support it.
Love the incompLETe or eMPTy names. Very professional and again ,like you said, name calling with no data to back it up besides hype.
Please stop because the hypocrisy is thick and will be difficult to overcome.
These are just tunes people....
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07-28-2014, 10:56 AM
#37
More hypocrisy. Creative names Shawn came up with,not on his own I am sure.
Love the incompLETe or eMPTy names. Very professional and again ,like you said, name calling with no data to back it up besides hype.
Please stop because the hypocrisy is thick and will be difficult to overcome.
These are just tunes people....
Love the incompLETe or eMPTy names. Very professional and again ,like you said, name calling with no data to back it up besides hype.
Please stop because the hypocrisy is thick and will be difficult to overcome.
These are just tunes people....
No one on this thread is responding with anything but supporting data disproving the OP, except the people that have some sort of vendetta with SSI.
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brucesears (07-28-2014)
07-28-2014, 11:04 AM
#38
I don't care what people buy, honestly. I don't like being on forums where vendors are given a free pass to shovel snake oil and bash other vendors ( Livernois ) products while trying to sell their own.
No one on this thread is responding with anything but supporting data disproving the OP, except the people that have some sort of vendetta with SSI.
No one on this thread is responding with anything but supporting data disproving the OP, except the people that have some sort of vendetta with SSI.
This SSI drama is beyond pathetic.
07-28-2014, 11:10 AM
#39
If you didn't want people defending tunes with data, the OP should not have responded the way he did. Was VERY easy to avoid.
Instead of this thread being about how strong the Diablo tune is for a canned tune, it's now a thread about a salesman that decided to call out two of the major tuners without any supporting data to do so because he CHOSE to call them out. This isn't oh poor pitiful me, why are people picking on me.
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SkiSmuggs (07-28-2014)
