Looks like the 3.5L Ecoboost has issues on all cars
#11
Senior Member
Weather or not the claims are warranted or not it was the deciding factor for me purchasing my 5.0L 2013 F150 6 weeks ago. I don't buy any large purchases based solely on a "test drive" after doing homework and talking to other owners I feel I did my due diligence with my purchase and have comfort level that made me feel I made the right decision.
I understand others have had zero issues but to ignore the people that do and say there is just a few small isolated cases isn't helping anyone. Denial to justify your own purchase is biatch.
#12
Member
So the F150 isn't an isolated case.
From a sponsered link on this forum, Fox news released a story about Ecoboost owners sueing Ford and how Ford hasn't released a recall to fix the problem.
From a sponsered link on this forum, Fox news released a story about Ecoboost owners sueing Ford and how Ford hasn't released a recall to fix the problem.
* http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/a...-engine-family
States that 400,000 of the 700,000 vehicles sold with an Ecoboost are in F-150s.
* http://www.thedetroitbureau.com/2013...boost-lawsuit/
States the the intercooler is the cause of the problem.
In the comments section of one of the articles found through the Google search, one SHO owner stated that his shuddering was cause by wires shorting out because the wire insulation had abraded away due to excessive rubbing. The SHO owner stated that he learned of that problem from other SHO owners, so the SHO Ecoboost problem might not be the same as the problem that happens on some F-150s.
I do not think that the problem on the F-150 Ecoboosts is as widespread as the news articles might lead one to believe. There is a 2011 F-150 Ecoboost, and a 2012 F-150 Ecoboost owned by employees where I work - I asked both what they thought about their engines before I ordered my 2013 5.0 last September. The 2011 owner had nothing but high praise for the engine - fast, very fuel efficient, a slight turbo lag, but no shudder. The 2012 Ecoboost owner bought an Ecoboost because he heard nothing but positive comments from the 2011 owner; the 2012 owner has not experienced any shuddering issues.
A month or two ago the 2011 owner jokingly suggested that we race the trucks to see if the Ecoboost is faster than the 5.0 - I drove the Mustang to work that day, and he did not want care to try racing a 4x4 truck against a vehicle weighing 2,000 pounds less (racing trucks is silly any way). The next day it rained, and it continued to rain for pretty much every day for the next week. I saw the 2011 owner a couple of days after the rain stopped, and he was grinning. He said, "well it happened." I jokingly said something to the effect "you raced a 5.0 truck?" He said no, the truck went into limp mode when trying to pass another vehicle. He also mentioned that his truck has been shuddering a bit at 55 MPH. He took the truck to a small Ford dealership, which quickly identified the cause of the problem - there had already been two other trucks that they worked on with similar issues. He has been waiting for a replacement intercooler for the last three or four weeks. He still has a year to go on his lease, and is now considering trading it for something else (this consideration might not be related to the limp mode).
I don't think that Ford is running for cover over the few vehicles with Ecoboost issues. The day after I ordered my truck I toured the F-150 assembly plant in Dearborn. One of the guides stated that they were running two - 10 hour shifts per day Monday through Friday, and one - 10 hour on Saturday and Sunday. The trucks are produced at a rate of about 62 per hour, so that is about 7,440 trucks per week for one of the two F-150 assembly plants. The dealership where I ordered my truck from, at the time when the order was placed, would stock only the Ecoboost in FX4 and higher trim levels because that is what sells (they currently have one 5.0 in a Lariat). At least in my area, that seems to be fairly consistent from one dealership to the next. Ford recently announced that they will be running three - eight hour shifts at both of the F-150 assembly plants. Right or wrong, I do not think that the Ecoboost issues (possibly affecting 1.5% to 2% of the 400,000 installed in the F-150) have Ford's quality department scrambling.
#13
Senior Member
#14
Senior Member
Yeah I'm not here to start a Eco Vs <insert engine type here> what I'm saying is the bad press and PR is prominent for the EB and not just in the F150. When a potential buyer searches for issues and in my case there was a ton more hits for EB issues. I can only base my buying experience on how I researched my purchase so as I said it was enough for me to shy away from that motor in my new truck. (I was first time buyer of truck and had zero history, research or attachment to an F150 or any truck for that matter so I pounded the internet for facts)
I think its biggest thorn in its side is there is an issue (for some) and Ford hasn't been to lock it down and resolve it, word gets around.
Last edited by Azuri; 05-19-2013 at 12:03 PM.
#16
Member
Feed the fire of fear for the dreaded Ecoboost.
I personally don't know anyone who has gone into limp mode,one fella had intercooler replaced under a TSB.
Dealers up here stock 3/4 Ecoboost trucks....
They are selling like hot cakes.
More new F150s with EB than any other engine.
I refuse to say I love the EB....but I really like it
I personally don't know anyone who has gone into limp mode,one fella had intercooler replaced under a TSB.
Dealers up here stock 3/4 Ecoboost trucks....
They are selling like hot cakes.
More new F150s with EB than any other engine.
I refuse to say I love the EB....but I really like it
#19
Opinionated Blowhard
First, I love my 2011 EB. For virtually all of the 28,000 miles I've had it, it has run flawlessly giving me great mileage (16.5 mpg lifetime w/towing), usually around 18 mpg in our mountainous environment. I have had two instances of the loss of power. The first was after driving a nine hour trip in the rain. Went to accelerate onto an interchange and it fell flat with the shudder and limp mode; it didn't set a code in the computer. I took it in with the complaint and they did the first TSB fix for the issue. The second time, was in the heat of the summer last year. It was about 103 in Lafayette, Indiana. I accelerated from a stop light when it had something similar to a backfire and set a code. That trip to the dealer resulted in replacement of the catalytic converter and other TSB fixes (CAC plastic cover fix).
Lately, I have been having a recurrence of the 55-60 mph shudder. I have not had a repeat of the shudder/limp problem, but.... Anyway, I'm going to push the dealer for the CAC replacement just on the off chance that it may happen again.
At this point, I would be happy if Ford would build the CAC like FullRace. They seem to have solved the condensation problem (no place for water to accumulate). And $1200 for a permanent fix most likely will be cheaper in the long run. But, that's wishful thinking. I just want a fix that works so I can continue to enjoy the truck I bought.
Lately, I have been having a recurrence of the 55-60 mph shudder. I have not had a repeat of the shudder/limp problem, but.... Anyway, I'm going to push the dealer for the CAC replacement just on the off chance that it may happen again.
At this point, I would be happy if Ford would build the CAC like FullRace. They seem to have solved the condensation problem (no place for water to accumulate). And $1200 for a permanent fix most likely will be cheaper in the long run. But, that's wishful thinking. I just want a fix that works so I can continue to enjoy the truck I bought.
#20
Senior Member
First, I love my 2011 EB. For virtually all of the 28,000 miles I've had it, it has run flawlessly giving me great mileage (16.5 mpg lifetime w/towing), usually around 18 mpg in our mountainous environment. I have had two instances of the loss of power. The first was after driving a nine hour trip in the rain. Went to accelerate onto an interchange and it fell flat with the shudder and limp mode; it didn't set a code in the computer. I took it in with the complaint and they did the first TSB fix for the issue. The second time, was in the heat of the summer last year. It was about 103 in Lafayette, Indiana. I accelerated from a stop light when it had something similar to a backfire and set a code. That trip to the dealer resulted in replacement of the catalytic converter and other TSB fixes (CAC plastic cover fix).
Lately, I have been having a recurrence of the 55-60 mph shudder. I have not had a repeat of the shudder/limp problem, but.... Anyway, I'm going to push the dealer for the CAC replacement just on the off chance that it may happen again.
At this point, I would be happy if Ford would build the CAC like FullRace. They seem to have solved the condensation problem (no place for water to accumulate). And $1200 for a permanent fix most likely will be cheaper in the long run. But, that's wishful thinking. I just want a fix that works so I can continue to enjoy the truck I bought.
Lately, I have been having a recurrence of the 55-60 mph shudder. I have not had a repeat of the shudder/limp problem, but.... Anyway, I'm going to push the dealer for the CAC replacement just on the off chance that it may happen again.
At this point, I would be happy if Ford would build the CAC like FullRace. They seem to have solved the condensation problem (no place for water to accumulate). And $1200 for a permanent fix most likely will be cheaper in the long run. But, that's wishful thinking. I just want a fix that works so I can continue to enjoy the truck I bought.