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Old 03-29-2012, 05:15 PM
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We purchased a good, running 16k mile take-out engine from a 2010 Taurus SHO for engine development. This will lead to some exciting things...

I was going to document the entire tear-down, unfortunately the guys in engine build got excited to see what was inside..

Bad quality cell phone photo with valve covers removed



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EcoBoost "a la-cart"





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Rick, I've noticed the the 3.7 NA engine has a much higher rpm range and higher NA power level vs the 3.5 EB. I surmise that the camshafts are a large part of the difference. Is there any chance of retrofitting 3.7 cams into the EB, or does the HPFP drive make that impossible? It could be worth 40+ hp, if my math is correct.
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Very nice. Keep us posted of any developments.
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Seems like a lot of carbon on that piston for only 16k miles. Even down past the second ring. Yikes
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Originally Posted by engineermike
Rick, I've noticed the the 3.7 NA engine has a much higher rpm range and higher NA power level vs the 3.5 EB. I surmise that the camshafts are a large part of the difference. Is there any chance of retrofitting 3.7 cams into the EB, or does the HPFP drive make that impossible? It could be worth 40+ hp, if my math is correct.
N/A hp is largely due to the compression ratio. If the ecoboost didnt have turbos it would be a turd. But cam profiles etc do come into play of course too.
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N/A hp is largely due to the compression ratio. If the ecoboost didnt have turbos it would be a turd. But cam profiles etc do come into play of course too.
The 3.7 and 3.5 aren't even a point different in SCR. DCR and cam profile are way more important these days.
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Originally Posted by Leadsled124
N/A hp is largely due to the compression ratio. If the ecoboost didnt have turbos it would be a turd. But cam profiles etc do come into play of course too.
Actually all the power in a motor really starts with the cam... Compression ratio kind of compliments it.

Forced induction motors really don't need the same style of cam as a naturally aspirated engine since its forcing air in... Sure you could likely improve on it but if you're going through that trouble then why not just go bigger turbo.
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Originally Posted by Leadsled124
N/A hp is largely due to the compression ratio. If the ecoboost didnt have turbos it would be a turd. But cam profiles etc do come into play of course too.
As the others said. Half a point of compression is about 2% hp - basically less than 10 hp. However, if the 3.5 EB were naturally aspirated, it would be in the 250 hp range. It's missing over 50 hp.


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