cptbimes

You know nothing about knock counts and pulling timing. You know nothing about what is lean and what is rich.

All your knowledge comes from what others tell you.

T5 is yesterday's tune.

Ecofx86

Lol yesterday tunes Bc you had to revise it 3 times since release lol. The second version (beast mode) was so bad even Shawn called it "garbage"

go troll else where plz. .

setxathlete14

Eco, chill. It's clearly a never ending battle. .. Every tune gets revised several times. Let's keep this thread on topic.

cptbimes

Please elaborate why you think 3 knock counts are "bad." Please tell us how well you know the knock sensor and how it determines what is true knock and what is false knock. Please tell us why you feel a .81 lambda is "unsafe?"

Please tell me your facts to support your statements.

Joewee3.5

Sounds like everyone has their talking points. It's worse than a presidential race. Like I said, MPT is the best I've run. The guys running T5 ^insert dinosaur name, I'm sure your tune is awesome. Only one or two have run both MPT and SSI to really compare the two. I am presenting my experience with this tune for those that want options.

brucesears

Hmm. No reply, maybe that's because they have no facts.

Ecofx86

I gave my honest opinion. . On the mpt tune.

If anyone has the ability to update to the latest mpt tune. Go ahead and try it.

Ecofx86

I'm not derailing this thread pm if u want to talk about it

geno51

MAN O MAN And this thread is exactly why I went from posting on this forum 4-5 times a day to posting 1-2 times a month.

For Christ sake guys they are ****ing tunes! If you guys are this caught up in this crap you have some serious issues. Does MPT have a great tune Hell YES! can Shawn make a great tune Hell YES he can. Livernois yes they can, Unleashed YUP. But you guys stroking each other off on who is best is a joke. Guys getting "fired" claims of "blown engines" "my truck is faster then yours" blah blah blah. If there is a group of people out there causing this crap for a reason you are a pathetic group of people. You all know who you are

Do people want the "BEST" for sure they do but to act like a bunch of high school girls fighting over the quarterback is just stupid!

What ever happened to us giving honest reviews on products and moving on. Honestly guys these "Vendors" and "click's" that are forming have flat out ruined the f150 community not only here but on every forum. Everyone spends so much time arguing and nut swinging and or talking about each other its a joke to watch. SSI is getting bashed on f150ecoboost.net MPT is getting bashed on this one. And everyone gets bashed on the SSI forum. Everyone acting like there is some super secret OMG thing with this tuning stuff cracks me up. I got caught up it this crap myself for awhile. Its funny how people seem to think that he with the "loudest typing skills wins.

To just point out back up of all the above. I yesterday spent 13 hours on Dyno swapping parts tuning and trying other peoples tunes exc. Helping a well known vendor here dial in a few products They pushing forward trying to get to market. I used quite a few tunes 8 tunes 3 different company's to be exact. But the main focus was the hard parts as that is why we were there.

We were at an Independent dyno with a Independent tuner that has messed with a few Eco products prior. At one point we loaded a very well know tune that has been raved (sqwaked) about on this site for months and used it as a "goal" so to speak. With in 30 mins the 3rd party tuner made his changes to his "own" tune that we were using for the testing and was putting down the same numbers and then 5 mins later was making more. Its not really relevant to this topic in but in someway it is, in the fact that if you guys think that there is some magic going on they have you your being . I assure you there is not. And the wool has been pulled over your eyes.

We're my dyno runs some super 450hp runs absolutely not, that was not the point. We were not there for that, we were there for testing the hard parts. And having real data on the hard parts so when the vendor is happy with the product he has back up for his new products. Did this dyno operator have no problem making the same power as two BIG names here. Not one bit, did it shift as "magically" smooth as the other two names guess what yes it does. I want to make clear that these vendors work hard on making the best tunes they can and they deserve credit. But acting like one **** dont stink,and the others does is retarded. As seeing what I saw on the dyno any quality tuner who has any idea what they are doing can easily match what the others are doing. All this "boom" game over I was .01 faster I'm now lightyears ahead stuff is for the kid's. And If your dumb enough to get caught up it shines through and every can see right through your posts. Hell it's happened to me before

Dont ask for the dyno's as I don't have them the dyno was not for me it was for testing and data only. Hell I don't even have my truck they still have it until tomorrow as they are doing more testing.

Really the fact is guys, you are doing this all for nothing. I 100% understand the feeling to support something that you feel is great "tune" or "product" but when it comes down to this childish crap its comical and really shows who's who in this community.

I honestly feel the worst for the mods who have to sift through this garbage. as I would want to claw my eyes out and just say F it and shut the site down.

End rant
And I am off to only post again in a few weeks because of the trolls

my67falcon

Hey geno, stop with the common sense already. :-P