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Old 05-28-2014, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jwanck11
The plot thickens.

Is this a custom tune or stock tune?

If its custom, I hope you went back to stock and if not, I recommend it. Also, if custom, I agree with Franchi - call your tuner, share your logs and work with them (or another tuner) to address the issue.

If its stock, did you just get an "upgrade?" This might need to be a dealer solve.

Comparing datalogs with someone else on the forum with your strategy will not be helpful.
I PM'[d him and the richness is with the stock tune.
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I suspected that was the case.... I think this is someting to take up with your dealer. Brett - did your truck just get flashed?

Also, the engine will run rich on start up to heat up the cats quickly and then should settle to a more balanced afr (fairly quickly.) I assume you are seeing concerning values after the engine has warmed up...
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Its the stock tune. My truck was reflashed with the latest strategy from Ford a few weeks ago so I decided to log it. I have logged my previous strategy and AFR at WOT was around .77-.78. This one is way rich. I have no clue on how to approach my service advisor on this.
As far as custom tunes, I have recently logged MPT, 5star and Ssi (built off the new strategy) and AFR is perfect.
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First off, smart of you to log the tune!! Stock has been shown to be inferior to custom tunes in the past, though those reports specifically were around KR. AFR too rich seems to be a new one. *sigh*

Can you run a custom tune you like and simply not look back unless you have to flash to stock for a dealer visit?? Given your custom tunes are within a good range, they are likely safer than stock in this case...

It would be interesting to see if those with the new strat are also running rich, but I hear you - talking to the dealer might yield absolutely nothing whatsoever - they don't write the tune. I am afraid if you do go the Ford route, it will be a frustrating, fruitless, long & arduous process.
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Originally Posted by jwanck11
First off, smart of you to log the tune!! Stock has been shown to be inferior to custom tunes in the past, though those reports specifically were around KR. AFR too rich seems to be a new one. *sigh*

Can you run a custom tune you like and simply not look back unless you have to flash to stock for a dealer visit?? Given your custom tunes are within a good range, they are likely safer than stock in this case...

It would be interesting to see if those with the new strat are also running rich, but I hear you - talking to the dealer might yield absolutely nothing whatsoever - they don't write the tune. I am afraid if you do go the Ford route, it will be a frustrating, fruitless, long & arduous process.
And the dealer won't go back to the old strategy either.
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Was hoping someone with the same stock strategy could share their data log so I could hopefully confirm if thats how its set up to run on that strategy, or maybe a bad flash from Ford or from my sct device. In another words i would have a better idea on how to proceed.
As far as custom tuning, my preference is to only run one during the first 5,000 miles of an oil change. Just for my piece of mind.
Thank you all for the help so far!
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I think i have the same one. the revision just got released for it like 3 weeks ago or so. mine WAS running super rich ~10.3:1 AFR. I can log a little, have to flash back to stock though. anything specific you looking for?
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Originally Posted by torinalth
I think i have the same one. the revision just got released for it like 3 weeks ago or so. mine WAS running super rich ~10.3:1 AFR. I can log a little, have to flash back to stock though. anything specific you looking for?




Yep that's sounds like what I am seeing! If you can log wot 1st-3rd that would be a huge help, and the mpt configuration would work fine. But don't get yourself a ticket.


So there is a revision to this strategy?
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Originally Posted by brettd4x4
Yep that's sounds like what I am seeing! If you can log wot 1st-3rd that would be a huge help, and the mpt configuration would work fine. But don't get yourself a ticket.


So there is a revision to this strategy?
I just glanced through the strategy in the software, PM me if you would like some help with this...
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