gillysmi

how many people out of 100 would be willing to buy any vehicle that needs to have a catch can emptied. I know what they are for but most do not. I would think it would be a marketing nightmare to have to tell customers that every few hundred miles you better empty your can... if that is what the EB is coming to then I will not have another one. I have already been told to change my oil every 3k miles and run premium fuel.

Manuellabour247

If it were big enough and had a level sensor I wouldn't mind it at all. They can idiot proof it to where it's done every oil change. Or people could take some responsibility for their vehicles and actually maintain them. My truck isn't a show truck, but I service it whenever it's required. Actually before, but I see no harm in my service lengths.

Shadow637

This is not just a "Ecoboost" issue, it is a "Direct Injection" issue. All manufacturers with direct injected motors face the same problem.

RMR-F150

I don't mind dealing with my catch can, so it's not a huge concern to me. But, you're right, it is a direct injection issue. However, given the relatively small power & economy boost DI brings to the table versus the issues like deposits and HPFP problems (based on what I've seen from multiple manufacturers engines), I'm not convinced DI is that worthwhile. Guess we'll see where DI tech is in another 5 to 10 years.

papa tiger

The long range fix is adding tuned port injection with the direct injection like the New GT has but then of course why do direct injection at all and then the question remains why have DI at all. There are better ways, more long range reliable ways to inject fuel and end up with good fuel economy. DI just because the competition does seems **** retentive but as of now DI without the proper attention will remain.

itguy08

An "older" Eco owner here. 84k (soon to be 85k), never a can and no issues other than a bum knock sensor (early issue on the 09/10 FWD versions). Starts every morning, goes like stink, idles smooth, and rock solid MPG's for those 84k.

The VW/Audi/BMW folks have shown the cans do little for the deposits. Those were the engines that really caked up the valves so if there was any benefit they should have seen them....

TurboSalsa

That seems silly, who told you to do that?

Between valve and the fuel dilution everyone here seems to think the sky is falling. I've yet to see any quantitative proof that either are worth worrying about considering the millions of trouble free EB engines on the road.

I honestly think some people here just want something to worry about. If you want to check your dipstick every 100 miles and complain about 5% fuel dilution to the Ford techs be my guest, but I'm going to keep changing my oil at 5k.

There are people who genuinely have problems with their engines but they are the exception, not the rule, and the amount of totally uneducated speculation here does nothing to help anyone.

TurboSalsa

The VW/Audi DI deposit issue was probably the worst of any manufacturer. From what I read there were noticeable driveability, performance, and fuel economy issues if the valves were not cleaned every 10k miles. That hasn't been the case with the EB yet, so I'm not sure when these mysterious valve deposits are planning on materializing.

I'm sure someone with a novel solution for valve deposit removal will be along to tell us how our engines will literally explode if we don't use their product.