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Old 03-13-2011, 01:47 PM
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Triglet isn't the fuel charge being shot directly into the combustion chamber? You would think it would clean the area it is directed into, perhaps cleaning the combustion chamber, injector tips and valve surface area! If anything should help a little.

When they tore down the test engine in the videos, that sure looked pretty clean.
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Yeah I too would like to see someone besides a company talking about how great their product is do a review on the sludge build up. Yeah I seen the teardown video and I'm hopeful this is how it will workout. I'm sure that everything the fuel/cleaner comes in contact with will be clean. But in standard/older engines that we are used to fuel is injected into the lower intake and travels down the ports and through the valves. Which in turns keeps them clean. Way I understand what I've read with DI this doesn't happen. I'm hoping ford has come up with a way to combat this because I really want one of these engines. Mpg looks promising and love the sound of the turbos. Actually wish they were louder lol
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Yeah I just sold my 08 Cummins 6.7, they are plagued with exhaust and EGR problems trying to get diesels to run so clean. I am optimistic that the 3.5 will work out good. I don't think Ford wants to make a big costly mistake atleast I hope not.

When I sold my Cummins I only had 13,000 Mi on it but I never had an issue. I take good care of my toy's and I think that plays alot on how things last.
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Originally Posted by p38fln
I would think in the F-150 there would be much less sludge than in the Taurus for a very simple reason -
The F-150 is a much heavier vehicle and the engine will be working much harder to move it. Since cool engine temperatures are one of the primary causes of engine sludge, this should cut down on the problem.

I'd also like to see someone BESIDES a company that makes a sludge removal product test an Ecoboost out, especially after seeing the F-150 engine teardown having MUCH less carbon buildup after a lot more miles were put on.
It's not sludge, it's oil vapor that cakes on to the valve stems and then carbonizes or hardens from the heat.

Any kind of fuel treatment will not accomplish anything to prevent this. Best way is to use a good oil, change often, and do what you can to not make excessive short trips. I'm not worried about this being an issue, but it is in the back of my head for the future.

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Originally Posted by p38fln
I would think in the F-150 there would be much less sludge than in the Taurus for a very simple reason -
The F-150 is a much heavier vehicle and the engine will be working much harder to move it. Since cool engine temperatures are one of the primary causes of engine sludge, this should cut down on the problem.

I'd also like to see someone BESIDES a company that makes a sludge removal product test an Ecoboost out, especially after seeing the F-150 engine teardown having MUCH less carbon buildup after a lot more miles were put on.
right, but even though they ran a lot of miles on the EB, they did so without the normal warmup/cooldown cycles that come with everyday driving.

Pretty much everyone who's done DI turbo has had sludge problems but they dont appear until years later. I'm hoping Ford has the problem solved but am not convinced.
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Guess were going to be the guinea pigs. Well if it's oil vapors causing sludge maybe the full synthetic will help with that. I never ran synthetic in the diesels but with the EGR crud I always changed it at 4,000 Miles and no issues. The oil would be black right after changing it unlike the older diesels I had without the egr.

I'm willing to take a chance, what the hell.
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I think a oil catch can would be the way to go. The valve deposits are from PCV vapors.
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Originally Posted by varithms
I think a oil catch can would be the way to go. The valve deposits are from PCV vapors.
Well that works for keeping the intercooler clean on a Lightning so HMMM.



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