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Old 05-21-2014, 02:15 PM
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I have my opinion on the rash, or supposed rash, of blown engines. Yes I know what opinions are like and we all have one but some smell a lot worse than others. As you can see from my user name I am not some youngster and have learned a few things in my 64 years, one being that the simplest and most obvious answer is usually correct. That said if you think about it, discounting stupidity, what group of ecoboost engines would you expect to fail the most often? I say the ones that are putting out the most power because they are under the most stress. If we look at the quarter mile times the tuner with the most cars at the top of the list should have the most failures, smells right to me. We ask our tuners to give us more power so we can go faster quicker and then wonder why there are failures. Every engine has a weak spot to include the marvelous six cylinder we all love so much. There are stock engines failing at 365 horse how much quicker should we expect that failure when pushed well over 400 horse? Also some parts that would not fail at stock power when pushed to those extremes will fail. If you have data logged your tune, I am sure we all have, looked at it and accepted it or if you cannot interpret it asked someone other than your tuner to interpret it for you, deemed it safe to run, an accepted the risk, then you have accepted the fact it may fail. If you want an absolute guarantee your engine will never fail park your truck it in the driveway and admire it. Just my smelly opinion and I have been called an AHOLE before. Accept the risk LOVE driving my SSI tuned truck, All of us who have tuned engines must have accepted the risk. By the way my truck is silver id yours is a different color I hate you. Makes as much sense as hating me because I run an SSI tune.
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A bad aftermarket tune can grenade a motor regardless of its ability to, or not, handle power.
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Stock ones were blowing long ago.....tunes are blowing, and now a recommended "cleaning". I think Ford is going to forge it all!!!

In all honesty, great post. We can blame it on the CAC, weak parts, tunes, bad tunes, great tunes, stress, 1/4 miles...etc. Stay mild if you are worried about because the stock tune IS NOT fool proof either.

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Better call SCT and let them know their boxed 87 tune blows engines.
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Originally Posted by jwanck11
Better call SCT and let them know their boxed 87 tune blows engines.
Yeah, the 87 canned tune seems to have claimed more than one engine, lol.

Basically, all a good tune will do is increase performance and efficiency. When you load a 93 octane performance tune...you know right then and there that you are pushing in the top end of the spectrum.

If you don't feel comfortable pushing that far, get a street/tow tune. It's still going to run faster and be better than stock.
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Originally Posted by The OLDMAN
I have my opinion on the rash, or supposed rash, of blown engines. Yes I know what opinions are like and we all have one but some smell a lot worse than others. As you can see from my user name I am not some youngster and have learned a few things in my 64 years, one being that the simplest and most obvious answer is usually correct. That said if you think about it, discounting stupidity, what group of ecoboost engines would you expect to fail the most often? I say the ones that are putting out the most power because they are under the most stress. If we look at the quarter mile times the tuner with the most cars at the top of the list should have the most failures, smells right to me. We ask our tuners to give us more power so we can go faster quicker and then wonder why there are failures. Every engine has a weak spot to include the marvelous six cylinder we all love so much. There are stock engines failing at 365 horse how much quicker should we expect that failure when pushed well over 400 horse? Also some parts that would not fail at stock power when pushed to those extremes will fail. If you have data logged your tune, I am sure we all have, looked at it and accepted it or if you cannot interpret it asked someone other than your tuner to interpret it for you, deemed it safe to run, an accepted the risk, then you have accepted the fact it may fail. If you want an absolute guarantee your engine will never fail park your truck it in the driveway and admire it. Just my smelly opinion and I have been called an AHOLE before. Accept the risk LOVE driving my SSI tuned truck, All of us who have tuned engines must have accepted the risk. By the way my truck is silver id yours is a different color I hate you. Makes as much sense as hating me because I run an SSI tune.
Well hello Shawn...I see they let you back under a different username!
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I think the fuel in the oil is going to wreck alot of these motors faster.
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About 1 oz. of gas in a pan seems average and not gonna help it a lot. Maybe 5W40 on a used well broken in motor is not so dumb ?
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Originally Posted by 02reaper
Well hello Shawn...I see they let you back under a different username!
Nope. He's legit & I must say I agree w/ his post regarding pushing the envelope of the designed capabilities (or limits) of stock components. Also that there needs to be some assumption of responsibility of the user's of tunes, "especially" if they request ***** to the walls tunes.

Just a reminder, everybody play nice. This is a topic that deserves discussion. He happens to be running SSI tunes but it speaks to tuning in general. Obviously there are more factors to consider than just the limitations of the stock components but this is a good starting place.

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I will say it is interesting to note that Roush has all sorts of upgrades for the 5.0 and 6.2 yet nothing for the EB. The one upgrade it did have, the CAI, was taken off the market. It seems easy for Roush to make a tune, but they stay away.


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