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Old 09-16-2011, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by P150
A dented intercooler is a whole lot different than a punctured one, and I have yet to see any posts (with pictures) to confirm this will even happen.
It has happened. https://www.f150forum.com/f70/wish-i...-today-110493/
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Lol. Block the airflow to your radiator and let me know how that works for you. An intercooler is nothing more than a heat exchanger. If there is no air to transfer the heat into then where exactly do you think the heat will go? It needs airflow, period.
When you can come back with proof as I have, then we'll talk. I didn't say it made NO difference if you completely block it off, but putting a grill there will make no difference. How do you think people at the drag strip get off the line with a FMIC ? There is no air flowing over it at idle yet IAT's remain ambient.
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Originally Posted by TheKurgan

When you can come back with proof as I have, then we'll talk. I didn't say it made NO difference if you completely block it off, but putting a grill there will make no difference. How do you think people at the drag strip get off the line with a FMIC ? There is no air flowing over it at idle yet IAT's remain ambient.
You think your F150 is set up like a dragster?! Wow.
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You think your F150 is set up like a dragster?! Wow.
Lol. The concept of a FMIC is the same. It makes no difference what vehicle it is in, and my mustang is not a dragster. You are really sounding bad here man. You doubters need to get a tuner and datalog this stuff for yourself before you spew any more BS.
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Originally Posted by NASSTY
Dented, not punctured. Granted it's a dent that I wouldn't want to get, but that particular intercooler still works just fine. I'm not saying it's impossible to damage, just highly unlikely. Headlights, grilles, windshields, etc. are all susceptible to road debris, and we do not cover them foe protection, because it hinders performance. Your windshield would never break if it were made of steel, but visibility would be an issue.
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Originally Posted by P150
Dented, not punctured. Granted it's a dent that I wouldn't want to get, but that particular intercooler still works just fine. I'm not saying it's impossible to damage, just highly unlikely. Headlights, grilles, windshields, etc. are all susceptible to road debris, and we do not cover them foe protection, because it hinders performance. Your windshield would never break if it were made of steel, but visibility would be an issue.
I didn't say it was punctured. I was just showing you that damage has occurred from the big hole in the bumper.
It may still work but I bet those bent tubes are restricting flow more than a grill in the bumper would.
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After having to replace the intercooler on my dodge diesel the first mod I made to my new Ecoboost was a home made grill insert. Being well aware of the need for unrestricted air flow I took a piece of 1/8 in. expanded metal [often used in tailgates of ATV trailers] which has openings 3/4x11/4inch cut it 24inx9in use homemade metel brake and bent all 4 sides at right angles notched all4corners to form a tray measuring 20x5in with a 2in lip all around. this fits perfectly in the grill opening. A couple of coats of rattle can textured black 4 1/4 cap screws with body washers and nylock stop nuts to secure it to the bumper where the licence plate bracket would be on non eb trucks and you have a strong fairly good looking gaurd that will not obstruct air flow at any speed
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Originally Posted by ecoscrew
i did and was concuring with you.




that's cool you can read your IA temps. my guess it won't change much, but it could be easier to attract paper or other items that wouldn't squeeze into the bumper hole. if you monitor the IAT, i wouldn't be concerned.
You could get the same item stuck to the intercooler without the grill.
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Originally Posted by P150
Audi and Subaru are two of the best in the business as far as boosted engines, and have been using intercoolers for years in their high performance vehicles. If you can do the mental gymnastics to see the logic in that then good luck to you in general. This is not new technology. Ford definitely studied other platforms before integrating them into the Ecoboost. These engines are not "magic", they are simply well thought out and engineered.
And what "temps" are you referring to? The intercooler cools the highly compressed air used for combustion. Your engine won't heat up, it just won't receive the proper ingredients for detonation, thus decreasing performance.
But sure, go for it.
Intake air temp at manifold is what I am reading. That's the only thing the intercooler is cooling. Still asking where your info came from about reduced air flow over 70?
I am not seeing air temps go up at any speed over 70.
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Originally Posted by z06
Intake air temp at manifold is what I am reading. That's the only thing the intercooler is cooling. Still asking where your info came from about reduced air flow over 70?
I am not seeing air temps go up at any speed over 70.
Do what I did and at least call a tech that works on subaru or Audi or anything turbocharged. I also asked an old coworker who is a mechanical engineer.
Here's the point; anything in front of the intercooler is more than nothing in front of the intercooler. I'm sure someone can come up with one or two that don't, virtually all turbocharged cars have exposed, unobstructed intercoolers.
I have an EB, and I love it, as I'm sure most others love theirs. If you are confident enough in Ford to build a truck that you are willing to pay $35-55k for, at least be confident that they know what they are doing. It took some effort to create a bumper that shifted the license plate, so it's not that they just forgot to cover the intercooler. Think about it. And enjoy your EB, whatever you decide to do.


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