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Old 04-18-2013, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by engineermike
Guys, don't misinterpret what I'm saying. I think it sucks that ford isn't/can't fix your trucks. That part is a shame. I too have a malfunctioning truck that I can't get fixed, but just because it gets my heart rate up a little doesn't mean it's a legitimate safety issue.

If you pass a semi in a heavy rainstorm, you are accepting some level of risk. It makes it worse if you know your truck has an intermittent acceleration problem and you did it anyway.

If I thought, "I'm about to attempt a maneuver and the only thing separating me or my family from death is engine power", I don't believe I would do it.



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I ask because other vehicles have extremely similar intercoolers and no issues (Buick 3.8, for instance). Furthermore, I've driven 23000 miles in south la humidity and only had 2 minor hiccups, barely even noticeable. If it were an intercooler design issue, why wouldn't my truck have the same problem?
You do understand how condensation works don't you? If you are driving in HOT humid conditions it probably isn't going to build up much condensation.

The intercooler inlet and outlet being just above the bottom of the intercooler allows a space for condensation to build up, fix this and the problem is eliminated. The new intercooler they installed doesn't address this. The Buick you mentioned does not have a similar intercooler set up, the inlet and outlet are both at the top, not slightly above the bottom of the intercooler.

You continue to state that this issue isn't a safety issue yet you have just chastised me for endangering my family by trying to pass a semi in a truck that I know has an acceleration problem. Do you see the flaw in your logic here?

this is the last time I will respond to you.

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Old 04-18-2013, 09:27 PM
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If you say something about another member on a personal level, You will be canned.

There is no need for name calling, If you are over the age 10.
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Originally Posted by devojrx7

You do understand how condensation works don't you? If you are driving in HOT humid conditions it probably isn't going to build up much condensation.

The intercooler inlet and outlet being just above the bottom of the intercooler allows a space for condensation to build up, fix this and the problem is eliminated. The new intercooler they installed doesn't address this. The Buick you mentioned does not have a similar intercooler set up, the inlet and outlet are both at the top, not slightly above the bottom of the intercooler.

You continue to state that this issue isn't a safety issue yet you have just chastised me for endangering my family by trying to pass a semi in a truck that I know has an acceleration problem. Do you see the flaw in your logic here?

this is the last time I will respond to you.
I agree it is a safety issue. Mine died on me pulling out in traffic on the highway. Scared the **** outta me. Luckily I found hobble her on to the shoulder
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Can me then. What I said was true and accurate. Mike has accused me of intentionally endangering my family when all I was trying to do is drive home at the speed limit from a family vacation. Furthermore he is taking up for ford for placing my family in danger by refusing to fix the flaw in the vehicle they sold me. I was only attempting to help the other members of this forum with the problems with their trucks by posting the ordeal I was going through with mine. I wasn't "name calling" Ford isn't likely to fix my truck, or they would have done so already, so one way or another I'm getting rid of it so your canning of me won't hurt my feelings in the least as I won't have any further use for this forum. If you would like updates on my lemon law progress please send me your email before they can me and I will try to keep you in the loop.

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Originally Posted by devojrx7
You do understand how condensation works don't you? If you are driving in HOT humid conditions it probably isn't going to build up much condensation.
Oh I get it. Plenty of condensation occurs around here, just none that causes my truck to stumble. Others locally and in surrounding states with similar climates have the problem, while I don't. If condensation were the root cause, then it would be the same from one truck to the next.

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The intercooler inlet and outlet being just above the bottom of the intercooler allows a space for condensation to build up, fix this and the problem is eliminated. The new intercooler they installed doesn't address this. The Buick you mentioned does not have a similar intercooler set up, the inlet and outlet are both at the top, not slightly above the bottom of the intercooler.
How is it better for condensation to have the inlet and outlet at the top? Seems to me like the Buick design would be even more prone to condensation.

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You continue to state that this issue isn't a safety issue yet you have just chastised me for endangering my family by trying to pass a semi in a truck that I know has an acceleration problem. Do you see the flaw in your logic here? ....
Occasional loss in power isn't necessarily a safety issue. There have been thousands of engine failures over the years and people get upset, but I've never heard it classified as a safety issue.

Passing a semi in a heavy rainstorm in a vehicle with a known engine problem is a safety issue.

I don't see a flaw in my logic.

But your logic, as I understand it, is that it's a serious safety issue that Ford produced some trucks with an occasional loss of power. But it's completely reasonable and safe to knowingly and purposely drive a truck with said issue in such a manner as to put yourself at risk of collision, maybe death?
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Originally Posted by devojrx7
Can me then. What I said was true and accurate. Mike has accused me of intentionally endangering my family when all I was trying to do is drive home at the speed limit from a family vacation. Furthermore he is taking up for ford for placing my family in danger by refusing to fix the flaw in the vehicle they sold me. I was only attempting to help the other members of this forum with the problems with their trucks by posting the ordeal I was going through with mine. I wasn't "name calling" Ford isn't likely to fix my truck, or they would have done so already, so one way or another I'm getting rid of it so your canning of me won't hurt my feelings in the least as I won't have any further use for this forum. If you would like updates on my lemon law progress please send me your email before they can me and I will try to keep you in the loop.
Have a good one. I warned you.

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This exact **** happened to me the other day while passing a vehicle, and it wasn't raining either. Scared the crap out of us, totally unexpected. Major power loss and a shudder so bad that it was like riding on square tires. This is happening a lot more than we know it, I've talked to several people lately that have had this happen.
I'm gonna call ford tomorrow and suggest that they put a passing feature on the 2014's lol, i can't believe they forgot. Passing a vehicle is not the issue, a truck malfunctioning while doing so is!
There will b deaths because of this, there is no doubt about that. And sadly there may have already been, just haven't lived to tell about it.

Come on ford get your **** together !
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Huh. I had the problem. Ford put the new intercooler and drivers side cat in. Problem went away. How is that not considered a fix? And yes, trying to pass a semi in a hard rain storm with a known issue is unnecessarily putting your family at risk and not at the fault of ford.
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Huh. I had the problem. Ford put the new intercooler and drivers side cat in. Problem went away. How is that not considered a fix? And yes, trying to pass a semi in a hard rain storm with a known issue is unnecessarily putting your family at risk and not at the fault of ford.
I'm glad u got a fix! When I had my truck in for service the other day I asked if there were any recalls, was told nope. Was your fix a recall? U'd think I'd get a CEL if the cats were shot.
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Originally Posted by devojrx7
... Mike has accused me of intentionally endangering my family when all I was trying to do is drive home at the speed limit from a family vacation. Furthermore he is taking up for ford for placing my family in danger by refusing to fix the flaw in the vehicle they sold me. ...
Sooo. . . let me get this straight. . . you, in a known and documented malfunctioning truck, that is more prone to malfunction in humid weather, attempted to pass an 18 wheeler in heavy rain with your family on board. And Ford is putting your family in danger. And I'm the douchebag. I see. . .
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