Ecoboost lawsuit....
05-15-2013, 08:09 PM
#31
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So if that were true, all in those climates and driving conditions should be affected - correct? Not so. I have done the steady state driving, live in high humidity and have driven to areas of higher humidity. No issue for me and no issue for most other owners.
I am only stating that if the problem were mechanical, it would be affecting a high percentage of engines.
With the few that are having problems, it is something other than mechanics.
I worked for a company that built machinery and the computer control systems that operated the machinery. Mechanical issues were always easy to diagnose and fix.
The software and firmware issues were numerous and most times the designers response was "it can't do that". Only to find out later that yes it can.
Normally the mechanical designs may have a couple of revisions. The computer related issues would go into multiple revisions. I was often embarrassed to advise a customer that they needier another version of software.
I am only stating that if the problem were mechanical, it would be affecting a high percentage of engines.
With the few that are having problems, it is something other than mechanics.
I worked for a company that built machinery and the computer control systems that operated the machinery. Mechanical issues were always easy to diagnose and fix.
The software and firmware issues were numerous and most times the designers response was "it can't do that". Only to find out later that yes it can.
Normally the mechanical designs may have a couple of revisions. The computer related issues would go into multiple revisions. I was often embarrassed to advise a customer that they needier another version of software.
Including myself I know four people that have ecoboost trucks...all living within 10 miles of eachother. Three of the four have had the loss of power...the fourth never takes his on prolonged steady state driving trips. So is it possible all trucks in areas where condensation occurs potentially CAN have the problem...but because of driving styles some don't? I don't know, but three out of four people having the issues living within miles of eachother...leads me to believe that in certain areas all trucks have the potential for loss of power...but because of a difference in driving styles, not all will experience it. Just my observations.
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05-15-2013, 10:33 PM
#32
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This issue happened to me twice. Peeked out of the lane to pass and it shutdown like when you hit 100 mph the motor just shut off just like turning off the switch. Gave a quick CEL code and went away. Then 2 months later I got a solid engine code for the passenger side catalytic converter. Dealer replaced it about a month shy of a year and 10,000 miles later it runs like a dream no issues whatsoever. I am not afraid to peek out of the lane to pass at all. I did have one other issue though the sensor or something went out in the rear which caused the traction control to go haywire. It would arbitrarily apply the brake but not much. It made it feel like driving in heavy wind. They fixed that the same day at the dealer also. I am still extremely happy with my Ecoboost.
05-15-2013, 11:07 PM
#33
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Thread Starter
I think the simple explanation is driving style. A lot of folks never use more than 1/2 throttle, and generally a more moderate driver rolls on the throttle, instead of hammering it out of the blue.
I think all the ecoboost trucks have a flawed inter-cooler design, even the compromised newer design. It should not have the outlet on top, it's as simple as that.
Just my .02
I think all the ecoboost trucks have a flawed inter-cooler design, even the compromised newer design. It should not have the outlet on top, it's as simple as that.
Just my .02
05-15-2013, 11:13 PM
#34
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Thread Starter
This one is too common to say "it is going anywhere". If the problem is a design flaw, it will succeed. Not to mention, what percentage of owners is on forums? I doubt even half, maybe 1 in 5? This is not an imaginary, or exaggerated issue.
05-16-2013, 12:19 AM
#35
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Is this just a troll comment? All F150 come with 100000km warranty!
This one is too common to say "it is going anywhere". If the problem is a design flaw, it will succeed. Not to mention, what percentage of owners is on forums? I doubt even half, maybe 1 in 5? This is not an imaginary, or exaggerated issue.
05-16-2013, 12:23 AM
#36
intercooler and plug gap. It's too bad that it's happening, and Ford should fix it. They have MONDO R&D into this motor and may have dropped the ball in an area or two. by this time, maybe the "little" fixes (block-off plate in intercooler) might not cut it.
05-16-2013, 02:04 AM
#37
Inebriated 4 ur safety
I don't think there will be a recall or a forced safety recall by the NHTSA simply because it is not happening to every truck which is why it will probably only stay as a TSB. TSB's will fix(or attempt to fix) only the trucks that have the issue while recalls replace said part because all are defective or assumed to be defective. Not all the CACs are defective and the ones that are are being replaced which is what a TSB does so there would be no need for a recall. Having said that, I would think it would be very crappy on Ford's part if they didn't replace these CACs free of charge on vehicles that have this issue and are out of their warranty period.
I have had a misfire/shudder in my truck that kicked the truck in limp mode, but it was because of bad ignition parts and not the CAC.
I have had a misfire/shudder in my truck that kicked the truck in limp mode, but it was because of bad ignition parts and not the CAC.
Last edited by Al Kohalic; 05-16-2013 at 02:06 AM.
05-16-2013, 10:45 AM
#38
You know, I can't recall any manufacturer that has ever recalled a vehicle for engine design flaws. I can recall potential fire recalls due to faulty wiring/ignition, sudden acceleration, brake issues, etc, but never for component design.
Does anyone know of any recalls specifically for faulty engine components?
BTW, Buick had exploding turbos in the 80s, and as far as I recall, they were fixed on warranty if the owner had a problem, and were left to explode on the owner's dime if they made it past the warranty period.
Does anyone know of any recalls specifically for faulty engine components?
BTW, Buick had exploding turbos in the 80s, and as far as I recall, they were fixed on warranty if the owner had a problem, and were left to explode on the owner's dime if they made it past the warranty period.
Usually with things like this, it is limited to a rather small number of owners, it just happens (like with most things) that the ones with a problem, particularly one that is hard to replicate or repair, make the most noise.
I've hammered on mine numerous times in the past 19,000 miles (roughly 2,000 of it towing), and I have to say thus far I have yet to have had a problem with mine. I checked my plug gaps when some folks started uncovering that issue, and having previous experience with turbocharged engines, I agreed that the gaps were too wide and adjusted mine down.
Seems like few, if any of the 2013 owners have experienced the problem, which tells me Ford has tweaked the intake plumbing and tune enough to curtail the problem. Make no mistake, there is likely no way to completely eliminate condensation from forming, short of changing the laws of physics. But, they can at least try to come up with ways of keeping it from collecting in such a quantity to pose a problem.
05-16-2013, 11:09 AM
#39
I bought a 2011 EB supercrew 4x4 about 5 weeks ago had 30000 miles on it and never has had the intercooler changed on it and runs great, I did change the plugs to find the gap all over the place so I installed new ones and gapped at .032 and runs great, no issues at all 
but I think ford needs to step up and get these issues sorted out and take care of there customers better
but I think ford needs to step up and get these issues sorted out and take care of there customers better
