Tuner Boost

Tell me what part you dont understand in the detailed explanation I just made...it's all in there if you read it.

Or better yet, tell me how these people with the system are all making this up? All a conspiracy? I can't continue. Belive what you want.

BucketMan

Unphuckingsubscribed..

Theocoog

I don't understand why you can't just take this to the catch can thread. Your dissertation-length post is way, way off topic, and your big fat multi-page posts are winning you no friends here.

engineermike

You did not answer ppp's question. The shudder happens mainly in warm climates. The catch cans fill up much quicker in the cold. Seems like two different problems here, but I'm pretty sure someone has pointed hat out already.

engineermike

Mmmk.


Please stop advertising in my thread.

itguy08

Did you even bother to click the link ( http://www.bgprod.com/bgfueltest/thi...s-to-the-test/) )

They took a 2010 Taurus SHO right off the showroom floor, which has, oh, I dono, the Ecoboost 3.5, a DI Engine. They then proceeded to drive it and document the effects of coking and other such DI ailments. They then proceeded to devise a "plan of attack" for the engines to keep them deposit free. Including a valve cleaning process.

So yea, it has everything to do with a DI engine because IT IS A DI ENGINE. IT IS THE CAR VERSION OF THE EB IN OUR TRUCKS!


PROVE IT.

It has been widely said that Ford plays with valve timing, injector pulses, and a good PCV system in the Ecoboost to keep deposits at bay (especially compared to early DI engines).

So prove that none of this stuff is on our Ecoboosts. I posted the proof Ford knows about it and has systems to address it. Time for you to put up or shut up?

Since you're the only one saying the EB PCV system is defective, my challenge to you is still open. Contact the mods and lead us through it. From air entering the intake through the engine, back into the intake, and out the tailpipe. And explain why the system doesn't work under boost. Cause that's a pretty serious accusation for the 600k+ Ecoboost 3.5s out on the road today.

Mitch03

To get back on topic, I drilled the hole roughly 5,000 miles ago and to this date no shuddering and the truck runs great. I have driven through rain, snow and ice and no problems whatsoever. Before the hole, it would shudder badly when cruising at a constant speed for a while and then WOT. I run LMS 93 SS tune which raises the shift points from 5800 to 6400 rpms and it would shudder like a MF trying to shift from 2nd to 3rd. Not anymore!!! Just gets up and goes. It's the best mod ever and it's free!

Tuner Boost

The catchcan, as I have said has little to do with the shudder, it is caused by the water acccumulation in the CAC, and it is present in all weather. My point in all of this is if you correct the PCV system so it evacuates like a PCV system should, then it stops....something you keep ignoring. The catchcan only collects the gunk AFTER it has entered the crankcase.

Again, if you actually read my explanations you would not post such a question....so do what you choose to your truck. It is yours, don't do a thing to prolong engine life...it's perfect already as it comes and there is nothing to fix according to you and it...and YOU invited me here, remember?

If I was advertising I would NOT keep going over the technical cause and effect and list other brand cans you can do this with.


Shows how little you know about DI engines. The BG upper induction cleaning can loosen and clean some of thee deposits as any upper induction solution, but ONLY a manual valve cleaning can restore the valves to as new function. Just as you list your old lexus non DI as an example.....go work on netwroks and leave the automotive tech to those qualified, and thats not you or the others arguing here.

It is impossible for the intake valve timing to have any effect on intake valve coking. To do so would require a valve to be open at the time of fuel introduction, and that does not happen until the final 20-30% of the compression stroke, so tell me how that would be accomplished?

But I am bowing out of this thread....let your ignorance guide you and good luck with your engines.

itguy08

PS: It's not the BG Upper induction, it's this that they used:
http://www.bgprod.com/catalog/gasoli...ction-cleaner/

And I'm not a fan of BG products at all.

But then again it's not a catch can so it can't possibly work or be applicable.


If you are representative of "those qualified", I'll continue turning wrenches on my own cars and trucks, thanks. Thankfully I do my own work where possible and have a good relationship with my dealer.

Valve overlap, similar to how they use timing of the valves to eliminate EGR valves in newer engines. Also Injector timing/pulsing is used

See here:
http://www.edmunds.com/autoobserver-...-adopters.html
Scroll down to this "All Engines Not Designed Equally" and read carefully for both Ford ad GM.

My ignorance has 72k trouble free miles on 1 Ecoboost and 45k on another. That same "ignorance" has probably close to a million miles spread over various engines with never an issue. I'll stick with proper maintenance rather than relying on a salesman. But thanks for the concern.

Left Plate

Um.......72k isn't ****! Report back when you have 200k!

Sorry, but your posts remind me of that State Farm Insurance commercial, it is on the internet, so it must be true? As she walks off with her date, the French model, AKA: momobrow man!